Cowlishaw

by **Pony64** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:47 pm

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college ... season-ban

by **SMUer** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:14 pm

It seems like we are the only program who appears ambushed by allegations. Didn't we self report this incident!?!--so LB should have expected a "when did you know?" question, right? We must not have any friends/contacts in NCAA circles, nor do we appear to be utilizing our law dept. before these briefings.

by **Pony64** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:19 pm

SMUer wrote:It seems like we are the only program who appears ambushed by allegations. Didn't we self report this incident!?!--so LB should have expected a "when did you know?" question, right? We must not have any friends/contacts in NCAA circles, nor do we appear to be utilizing our law dept. before these briefings.

Would agree. Very disappointing. At least Fox Sport's guy got it right.

by **Smulaw90** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:48 pm

I don't want to over-lawyer this point. However, the devil is in the details. I would like to see how the questions by the NCAA were phrased. When you deal with investigative groups, they will often times use a word or phrase within a question that implies more than what a regular/ordinary person knows. I think this is where coach Brown has always contended that the mix up occurred.

For example:

Q: When did you learn and become aware that the adm assistant took the exam for Keith.
A: I learned of that on July 29th.

WRONG ANSWER!!

Q: When did you learn or become aware that the adm assitant took the exam for Keith.
A. I don't know that she took the exam for Keith. I wasn't there when the exam was taken and I don't have personal knowledge of that.
Q: When did you become aware that that had occurred and who made you aware.
A. I became aware of the possibility, though I don't know it happened, as a result of a conversation with my Asst. Coach.
Q. So right now, sitting here, you say, you still don't know that this actually happened?
A. No I don't know. I would have to go check computer records, log in times, passwords, access, etc, and I'm not qualified to do that.

If he gave the first answer during the first interview, and the second answer during the second, the NCAA concluded that he was lying or not being honest, even if he didn't know.

This is why YOU NEED LAWYERS. A great lawyer for SMU compliance.

by **Mustangsabu** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:49 pm

We didn't self report this.

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by **Pony64** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:59 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:We didn't self report this.

I've always been told we had after we found out what the assistant had done.

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by **smitty329** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:34 pm

Smulaw90 wrote:
This is why YOU NEED LAWYERS. A great lawyer for SMU compliance.

by **sadderbudweiser** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:41 pm

Could you repeat the question?

by **ghost** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:55 pm

How about setting a precedent and just being honest with people so you don't have to consult attorneys on what to say? And recruiting kids who are student/athletes and have made the grades in high school and testing and have a chance with support to get a degree from a prestigious institution of higher learning. Hopefully with the success they have had they can upgrade in future classes although I must admit these players now are some good-looking kids, unselfish and fun to watch.

by **PonyKai** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:05 pm

"I'm not here to talk about the past. I'm here to talk about the future, moving forward, and all the positive things we can do."

by **ponyinNC** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:21 pm

ghost wrote:How about setting a precedent and just being honest with people so you don't have to consult attorneys on what to say? And recruiting kids who are student/athletes and have made the grades in high school and testing and have a chance with support to get a degree from a prestigious institution of higher learning. Hopefully with the success they have had they can upgrade in future classes although I must admit these players now are some good-looking kids, unselfish and fun to watch.

how about rainbows and butterflies and ice cream for everybody!

by **One Trick Pony** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:32 pm

I see this title as coleslaw

by **LA_Mustang** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:50 pm

Cowlishaw won ATH today and in his Face Time he talked about.....SMU Basketball. Said that LB and SMU make college basketball must watch in Jan and Feb. ended the show with "Pony Up!"

by **sadderbudweiser** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:52 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:Cowlishaw won ATH today and in his Face Time he talked about.....SMU Basketball. Said that LB and SMU make college basketball must watch in Jan and Feb. ended the show with "Pony Up!"

Heh, heh, heh....enjoy the ride.

by **PonyKris89** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:11 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:Cowlishaw won ATH today and in his Face Time he talked about.....SMU Basketball. Said that LB and SMU make college basketball must watch in Jan and Feb. ended the show with "Pony Up!"

Very good point, MUST WATCH COLLEGE BASKETBALL IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY!

and Cowlishaw is pretty fair, usually, even if he is a Longwhoren.

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