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Went on Mike and MIke this morning and basically tried to end run the post season ban against his team. Hate to say it but he was right on with a bunch of his comments........

He is total pond scum.

Did he last longer than 15 seconds this time?

Responses in this thread are trickling out.

Petino basically was upset at penalties levied upon kids who are not involved in a violation. He advocated stiff penalties on the institutions for lack of institutional control and persons responsible to include stiff $$$$ penalties. Kids should not be made to pay the price for the actions of others at other time periods. Hence, affix penalties on those responsible with the institution ultimately being responsible.

He didn't suggest any scholarship reductions. Just money.

This has been a problem since the beginning of time. Surprised Petino just now realizes this.

PoconoPony wrote:Petino basically was upset at penalties levied upon kids who are not involved in a violation. He advocated stiff penalties on the institutions for lack of institutional control and persons responsible to include stiff $$$$ penalties. Kids should not be made to pay the price for the actions of others at other time periods. Hence, affix penalties on those responsible with the institution ultimately being responsible.

As a national writer pointed out, this allows institutions to basically buy violations. We would be number one if it was only about paying fines.

PoconoPony wrote:Petino basically was upset at penalties levied upon kids who are not involved in a violation. He advocated stiff penalties on the institutions for lack of institutional control and persons responsible to include stiff $$$$ penalties. Kids should not be made to pay the price for the actions of others at other time periods. Hence, affix penalties on those responsible with the institution ultimately being responsible.

did you stay stiff?

twice?

smusic 00 wrote:

PoconoPony wrote:Petino basically was upset at penalties levied upon kids who are not involved in a violation. He advocated stiff penalties on the institutions for lack of institutional control and persons responsible to include stiff $$$$ penalties. Kids should not be made to pay the price for the actions of others at other time periods. Hence, affix penalties on those responsible with the institution ultimately being responsible.

As a national writer pointed out, this allows institutions to basically buy violations. We would be number one if it was only about paying fines.

Yes. So a school from a P5 flush with TV revenue can buy their way out if violations but the teams like North Dakota State are stuck. Just accentuates the haves versus the have nots more than is already so.

Maybe kids should avoid schools that offer up hookers to recruits if they want to play in the post season.

It is nice that he is squealing like a stuck pig.

He's working hard at damage control by fake crying for the players and hoping like hell that the NCAA accepts their self imposed 1 year post season ban and calls it a day.

Using us as a comparison, he sure better be charged with lack of institutional control and miss a whole lot of games, and they need to be banned from post season for 2 years not 1.

Treadway21 wrote:

smusic 00 wrote:

PoconoPony wrote:Petino basically was upset at penalties levied upon kids who are not involved in a violation. He advocated stiff penalties on the institutions for lack of institutional control and persons responsible to include stiff $$$$ penalties. Kids should not be made to pay the price for the actions of others at other time periods. Hence, affix penalties on those responsible with the institution ultimately being responsible.

As a national writer pointed out, this allows institutions to basically buy violations. We would be number one if it was only about paying fines.

Yes. So a school from a P5 flush with TV revenue can buy their way out if violations but the teams like North Dakota State are stuck. Just accentuates the haves versus the have nots more than is already so.

Maybe kids should avoid schools that offer up hookers to recruits if they want to play in the post season.

It is nice that he is squealing like a stuck pig.

I kinda love your post Treadway

Bottom line issue remains unresolved as to what is an appropriate penalty. Hate to bring up Penn State, but everything that happened at PSU occurred more than 10 years prior to any kid arriving on that campus. Every action had absolutely nothing to do with the football team. It was total mismanagement by the AD, President and Provost. Paterno immediately reported the incident within hours of learning of the situation. His team was not involved and he had acted responsibly and totally within the chain of command. It was not his role to investigate and prosecute a former coach/PSU employee who had been retired for more than 10 years. The Board authorized his foundation to use all PSU campus facilities not Paterno. In fact, Paterno never spoke to Sandusky after he retired ( actually a forced retirement/firing by Paterno ) as they departed ways on bad terms. The question remains, the NCAA killed the football program for actions of the Board ( approving the Sandusky foundation unrestricted access to the university facilities) and total loss of institutional control by the secretive and deceptive failure of actions by the 3 most important employees in the university's structure. So what did the NCAA actually accomplish by punishing kids and program who had absolutely nothing to do with the transgressions of the administration more than 10 years after the fact?????????

PoconoPony wrote:Bottom line issue remains unresolved as to what is an appropriate penalty. Hate to bring up Penn State, but everything that happened at PSU occurred more than 10 years prior to any kid arriving on that campus. Every action had absolutely nothing to do with the football team. It was total mismanagement by the AD, President and Provost. Paterno immediately reported the incident within hours of learning of the situation. His team was not involved and he had acted responsibly and totally within the chain of command. It was not his role to investigate and prosecute a former coach/PSU employee who had been retired for more than 10 years. The Board authorized his foundation to use all PSU campus facilities not Paterno. In fact, Paterno never spoke to Sandusky after he retired ( actually a forced retirement/firing by Paterno ) as they departed ways on bad terms. The question remains, the NCAA killed the football program for actions of the Board ( approving the Sandusky foundation unrestricted access to the university facilities) and total loss of institutional control by the secretive and deceptive failure of actions by the 3 most important employees in the university's structure. So what did the NCAA actually accomplish by punishing kids and program who had absolutely nothing to do with the transgressions of the administration more than 10 years after the fact?????????

Life isn't fair, and a lot of the kids transferred to other schools. Penn State should have gotten the DP.

lollaperuna wrote:

PoconoPony wrote:Bottom line issue remains unresolved as to what is an appropriate penalty. Hate to bring up Penn State, but everything that happened at PSU occurred more than 10 years prior to any kid arriving on that campus. Every action had absolutely nothing to do with the football team. It was total mismanagement by the AD, President and Provost. Paterno immediately reported the incident within hours of learning of the situation. His team was not involved and he had acted responsibly and totally within the chain of command. It was not his role to investigate and prosecute a former coach/PSU employee who had been retired for more than 10 years. The Board authorized his foundation to use all PSU campus facilities not Paterno. In fact, Paterno never spoke to Sandusky after he retired ( actually a forced retirement/firing by Paterno ) as they departed ways on bad terms. The question remains, the NCAA killed the football program for actions of the Board ( approving the Sandusky foundation unrestricted access to the university facilities) and total loss of institutional control by the secretive and deceptive failure of actions by the 3 most important employees in the university's structure. So what did the NCAA actually accomplish by punishing kids and program who had absolutely nothing to do with the transgressions of the administration more than 10 years after the fact?????????

Life isn't fair, and a lot of the kids transferred to other schools. Penn State should have gotten the DP.[/quot

Life is not fair is not an answer. Yes, 9 kids transferred, but they had plenty of time and notice. Not like the SMU situation where the kids were already into the fall semester. Bottom line is that the NCAA is a political disaster and has little idea of what they should be doing or how do it. They basically make up the rules as they go along with absolutely no consistency or big picture understandings. Kill the kids and everyone should be pacified.