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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby NY Pony » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:23 am

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mustangxc wrote:Houston also has the benefit of Galveston for water sports.

Agreed - Dallas does not have the capability to host sailing events. None of the other cities that have hosted have been 5 hours from a major body of water (and no White Rock Lake is not a major body of water)


Because Beijing and Atlanta were so close to the ocean. I don't think the bid is realistic either but there are some people with real bid experience working this thing so interested in seeing how it plays out.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby smusic 00 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:52 am

Greenwich Pony wrote:I'm not sure why this thread is actually as serious as it is. Dallas is not getting a serious Olympic look any time soon. Or even 2024.


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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby Mustangsabu » Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:56 am

Did anyone see the crazy green grills on the Notre Dame helmets?
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby Big Hoss » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:52 pm

As awesome as it would be, it will never happen. Dallas has no appeal on an international level. You say Dallas outside the US, they know it either from the TV show, the Cowboys, or aren't familiar with it at all. Houston is an absolute long shot. You have to think of what iconic landmark can the host city plaster everywhere. With cities like NY and LA, you get a mental image just from mentioning them. Dallas? Houston? Nothing.

It would be a great excuse to completely modernize the Cotton Bowl. I think you could squeeze a track in there, even if you had to lose a couple rows up front. But it's a pipe dream.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby Grant Carter » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:51 am

Big Hoss wrote:As awesome as it would be, it will never happen. Dallas has no appeal on an international level. You say Dallas outside the US, they know it either from the TV show, the Cowboys, or aren't familiar with it at all. Houston is an absolute long shot. You have to think of what iconic landmark can the host city plaster everywhere. With cities like NY and LA, you get a mental image just from mentioning them. Dallas? Houston? Nothing.

It would be a great excuse to completely modernize the Cotton Bowl. I think you could squeeze a track in there, even if you had to lose a couple rows up front. But it's a pipe dream.

I agree Dallas will not get it, but I am not so sure about the lack of an iconic landmark being the reason. What is Atlanta's iconic landmark? Salt Lake City, lake placid?


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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby mrydel » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:18 am

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Big Hoss wrote:As awesome as it would be, it will never happen. Dallas has no appeal on an international level. You say Dallas outside the US, they know it either from the TV show, the Cowboys, or aren't familiar with it at all. Houston is an absolute long shot. You have to think of what iconic landmark can the host city plaster everywhere. With cities like NY and LA, you get a mental image just from mentioning them. Dallas? Houston? Nothing.

It would be a great excuse to completely modernize the Cotton Bowl. I think you could squeeze a track in there, even if you had to lose a couple rows up front. But it's a pipe dream.

I agree Dallas will not get it, but I am not so sure about the lack of an iconic landmark being the reason. What is Atlanta's iconic landmark? Salt Lake City, lake placid?


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Texas as a whole would be an iconic landmark internationally I would believe. Many would picture the wild west, cowboys, saloons, oil wells, cattle drives. Or the more recent thoughts would be of the TV show Dallas. I do not believe not getting the Olympics would be for that reason. There are many more factors already mentioned.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby Big Hoss » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:06 am

Grant Carter wrote:
Big Hoss wrote:As awesome as it would be, it will never happen. Dallas has no appeal on an international level. You say Dallas outside the US, they know it either from the TV show, the Cowboys, or aren't familiar with it at all. Houston is an absolute long shot. You have to think of what iconic landmark can the host city plaster everywhere. With cities like NY and LA, you get a mental image just from mentioning them. Dallas? Houston? Nothing.

It would be a great excuse to completely modernize the Cotton Bowl. I think you could squeeze a track in there, even if you had to lose a couple rows up front. But it's a pipe dream.

I agree Dallas will not get it, but I am not so sure about the lack of an iconic landmark being the reason. What is Atlanta's iconic landmark? Salt Lake City, lake placid?


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Winter Olympics is a whole different ball game. It's a location thing because you have to have mountains. They want people to be able to get a mental image of the city with the Summer Olympics. Atlanta was a fluke.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby Big Hoss » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:10 am

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Grant Carter wrote:
Big Hoss wrote:As awesome as it would be, it will never happen. Dallas has no appeal on an international level. You say Dallas outside the US, they know it either from the TV show, the Cowboys, or aren't familiar with it at all. Houston is an absolute long shot. You have to think of what iconic landmark can the host city plaster everywhere. With cities like NY and LA, you get a mental image just from mentioning them. Dallas? Houston? Nothing.

It would be a great excuse to completely modernize the Cotton Bowl. I think you could squeeze a track in there, even if you had to lose a couple rows up front. But it's a pipe dream.

I agree Dallas will not get it, but I am not so sure about the lack of an iconic landmark being the reason. What is Atlanta's iconic landmark? Salt Lake City, lake placid?


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Texas as a whole would be an iconic landmark internationally I would believe. Many would picture the wild west, cowboys, saloons, oil wells, cattle drives. Or the more recent thoughts would be of the TV show Dallas. I do not believe not getting the Olympics would be for that reason. There are many more factors already mentioned.


Uh, no. Texas is not an enormous destination for international travelers up there with the likes of London, Sydney, Beijing, Rio, etc. In interviews I've seen/read in the last few years of people connected to the Olympics, this idea comes up a lot.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby mrydel » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:25 am

Do not think I ever mentioned it as an enormous destination. I said iconic landmark.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby SMUguy » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:34 pm

Water Pony wrote:There are a few million dollar donors, but not a ten million gift to ensure administration does not have to reach into its coffers for more than 10% of the development costs. The result: stalemate.

This is a weak excuse, if you ask me. Didn't the school dip into its own coffers to build the (second) new tennis center when it wanted the garage for the Dubbya Liberry? That's what I was told.

Plus, has U.S. Swimming been approached about somehow splitting the cost or helping to raise the cash? My understanding was that U.S. Soccer split the cost of Westcott Field when it was built before the 1994 World Cup. Whoever brokered that deal should be asked to help with a natatorium. SMU has too rich a swimming and diving tradition to be competing in an antiquated facility like it has now.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby BigT3x » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:05 pm

SMUguy wrote:
Water Pony wrote:There are a few million dollar donors, but not a ten million gift to ensure administration does not have to reach into its coffers for more than 10% of the development costs. The result: stalemate.

This is a weak excuse, if you ask me. Didn't the school dip into its own coffers to build the (second) new tennis center when it wanted the garage for the Dubbya Liberry? That's what I was told.

Knocking down the brand new tennis facility was a strategic decision to support the Bush Center. That's why the school paid for it.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby Bergermeister » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:37 am

mustangxc wrote:If Atlanta can host the olympics I would think Houston and Dallas can do it too! Houston is rated the most diverse city in the country so Houston will beat out Dallas.

HUGE waste of money, time and resources. An absolutely terrible idea.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby PK » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:53 pm

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SMUguy wrote:
Water Pony wrote:There are a few million dollar donors, but not a ten million gift to ensure administration does not have to reach into its coffers for more than 10% of the development costs. The result: stalemate.

This is a weak excuse, if you ask me. Didn't the school dip into its own coffers to build the (second) new tennis center when it wanted the garage for the Dubbya Liberry? That's what I was told.

Knocking down the brand new tennis facility was a strategic decision to support the Bush Center. That's why the school paid for it.

I do believe that the parking structure that is being built where the tennis facilities were is actually for the new residential commons being built and not for the Bush library. It will be full of student's vehicles with little room for any library visitors.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby Pony147 » Sun May 04, 2014 12:59 pm

Bump. DMN had an interesting article about this

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20 ... hurdle.ece

Including:
American Airlines Center, Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center, the Trinity River corridor, Toyota Stadium in Frisco and existing and proposed facilities at Southern Methodist University would all be major event sites.
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Re: Dallas 2024 Olympic Bid

Postby smusic 00 » Sun May 04, 2014 4:21 pm

Swimming/Diving??? Hmmmm
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