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by SoCal_Pony » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:06 pm
Someone help me with the math.
Total sports lost $40M, but FB & BB combined ‘only loss’ $17M, where are the other $23M in losses coming from and how much of it is Title IX related? I suspect SMU’s situation is similar.
Also, unless last year was an anomaly, rather telling that UConn WBB lost $3M.
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by gostangs » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:46 pm
Just boot out Tulsa and go to 10. They add no value and are a small school in a really small market so dont add a thing.
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by smupony94 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:48 pm
SoCal_Pony wrote:Someone help me with the math.
Total sports lost $40M, but FB & BB combined ‘only loss’ $17M, where are the other $23M in losses coming from and how much of it is Title IX related? I suspect SMU’s situation is similar.
Also, unless last year was an anomaly, rather telling that UConn WBB lost $3M.
Surprisingly we are nowhere near UCONN malfeasance Redpony has a new school to [deleted] about
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by Charleston Pony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:11 am
They can compete for championships at the FCS level
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by Nacho » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:40 am
whatever it is will be the wrong thing. no doubt.
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by DanFreibergerForHeisman » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:25 am
The American offices moving to DFW was probably the last straw since Connecticut knew they would also lose a lot of the bias they get from the conference.
Shake It Off Moody
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by Pony ^ » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 am
Don't see the AAC being effected at all by this move. UConn is a broke joke
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by CA Mustang » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:58 am
midwestpony wrote:For BYU it's more than football plane trips. They have a lot of small teams too such as rowing, soccer, golf, etc. Obviously football is the biggest expense, but BYU basketball flying to Philadelphia to play Temple on a Wednesday night isn't easy - hard for us, but harder for them. Also, can the BYU sports participate on Sunday? feel like that's a whole new schedule headache.
Then invite BYU for football only and they can leave all their other sports in the WCC (WCC won't care as they don't offer football). Move Navy back to the East and the divisions are balanced. RGV Pony wrote:Yes, just as the the comps I mentioned above is total revenue. Their new ESPN # is forthcoming, but up until now it was a number between what SMU was getting in the old deal and what it will get in the new deal.
Unless the new offer from ESPN is a substantial increase, joining the AAC could make financial sense.
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by RGV Pony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:46 am
CA Mustang wrote:midwestpony wrote:For BYU it's more than football plane trips. They have a lot of small teams too such as rowing, soccer, golf, etc. Obviously football is the biggest expense, but BYU basketball flying to Philadelphia to play Temple on a Wednesday night isn't easy - hard for us, but harder for them. Also, can the BYU sports participate on Sunday? feel like that's a whole new schedule headache.
Then invite BYU for football only and they can leave all their other sports in the WCC (WCC won't care as they don't offer football). Move Navy back to the East and the divisions are balanced. RGV Pony wrote:Yes, just as the the comps I mentioned above is total revenue. Their new ESPN # is forthcoming, but up until now it was a number between what SMU was getting in the old deal and what it will get in the new deal.
Unless the new offer from ESPN is a substantial increase, joining the AAC could make financial sense.
Could, depending on perspective. Right now for example they have 7 P5 games scheduled in 2021. They want to maintain relevance alongside Utah, which means a higher profile schedule. Injecting 8 AAC games into their schedule may not accomplish what they are after.
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by deepellumfrog » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:16 pm
redpony wrote:Digetydog wrote: They will show up in droves to see Georgetown, Providence, Nova, etc, The FB team will slowly die.
I wonder how long those 'droves' of fans will show up when uconn is always getting their butt kicked. Their bball program died just a little earlier than ours and there is no signs it will come back to its old glory any time soon. guess they need to rename their 'huskies mascot to the 'chihuahuas '
Feel like the SMU hoops program died in 1967. Have you had a legit decade of success since then?
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by CA Mustang » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:44 pm
RGV Pony wrote:Could, depending on perspective. Right now for example they have 7 P5 games scheduled in 2021. They want to maintain relevance alongside Utah, which means a higher profile schedule. Injecting 8 AAC games into their schedule may not accomplish what they are after.
Yes, their schedule is full '20 & '21 and partially fully later years. Depending upon which of those games could be re-scheduled/canceled, they could gradually transition to a full AAC schedule. They have AAC teams (ECU, USF. etc.) on future schedules so those could be conference games.
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by ponyboy » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:39 pm
deepellumfrog wrote:redpony wrote:Digetydog wrote: They will show up in droves to see Georgetown, Providence, Nova, etc, The FB team will slowly die.
I wonder how long those 'droves' of fans will show up when uconn is always getting their butt kicked. Their bball program died just a little earlier than ours and there is no signs it will come back to its old glory any time soon. guess they need to rename their 'huskies mascot to the 'chihuahuas '
Feel like the SMU hoops program died in 1967. Have you had a legit decade of success since then?
Come back when you don’t have a fat football coach and a knuckle for a mascot
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by max the wonder dog » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:23 pm
VarsityShop wrote:ALEX LIFESON wrote:Suggestions for replacement?
Rice? North Texas? Ark State? UTEP? Louisiana Tech University?
None of the above. It's all about TV markets for the next conference contract. Rice and NTSU overlap existing conference schools, El Paso is a small market, Monroe is a tiny market, and Jonesboro is a micro market. Grab Army for football and get a national audience. Add SLU for other sports and pick up a TV market 4 times the size of El Paso and 15 times the size of Jonesboro. AAC already has five top 20 TV markets. At #21 with > 1.1 million households, St. Louis would be a nice addition.
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by Charleston Pony » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:52 pm
max the wonder dog wrote:VarsityShop wrote:ALEX LIFESON wrote:Suggestions for replacement?
Rice? North Texas? Ark State? UTEP? Louisiana Tech University?
None of the above. It's all about TV markets for the next conference contract. Rice and NTSU overlap existing conference schools, El Paso is a small market, Monroe is a tiny market, and Jonesboro is a micro market. Grab Army for football and get a national audience. Add SLU for other sports and pick up a TV market 4 times the size of El Paso and 15 times the size of Jonesboro. AAC already has five top 20 TV markets. At #21 with > 1.1 million households, St. Louis would be a nice addition.
Agree none of the above. Those schools are reserved for the day SMU is relegated to a regional SWC 2.0 and has given up all hope of competing against the big boys in college football. Can't see Army joining as their stint in CUSA was a failure and I can't see Army vs Navy being a conference game with them sharing revenue from that game, not to mention potential conflict with conference championship games, although it would be nice to have them both in eastern division and their game played during rivalry week every year. While I like SLU as a location/market and they would bring a competitive hoops program, don't they currently play all sports in A-10? Not sure where they find an all sports (minus bball) home.
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