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Postby friarwolf » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:09 pm

He gets my vote for idiot of the year...........on second thought, his lovely bride up in Arkansas gets that vote. He gets my vote for induction into the idiot hall of shame...........

What's the line from the Motley Crue song, ah yes............"Don't go away mad, just go away................"

By the way, SMU does get lawyer's fees?????????
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Postby smu diamond m » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:26 pm

Think SMU would mind if I took a sledge to a wall for 'em?

I guess this thread won't reach burger wars. Unless the appeal gets really juicy...
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Postby couch 'em » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:30 pm

smu diamond m wrote:Think SMU would mind if I took a sledge to a wall for 'em?

I guess this thread won't reach burger wars. Unless the appeal gets really juicy...


Just to point out....I started this thread.
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Postby PK » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:30 pm

couch 'em wrote:
smu diamond m wrote:Think SMU would mind if I took a sledge to a wall for 'em?

I guess this thread won't reach burger wars. Unless the appeal gets really juicy...


Just to point out....I started this thread.
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Postby Junior » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:26 am

About time. I lived there about 12 years ago. No idea why someone would defend the place other than trying to collect an exaggerated buyout from the school. Like they say, the most important part of playing chicken is knowing when to say when.

Guess this dude never heard that one.

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Postby smu diamond m » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:09 am

couch 'em wrote:
smu diamond m wrote:Think SMU would mind if I took a sledge to a wall for 'em?

I guess this thread won't reach burger wars. Unless the appeal gets really juicy...


Just to point out....I started this thread.

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Postby RE Tycoon » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:59 am

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Postby EastStang » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:56 am

Regarding an Appeal Bond, I suspect that he would have to post 50% of his property and if he is still married to the Arkansas lady 50% of their community property. Do you think she'll sign off on the bond application? I think not. Federal Rules do permit an irrevocable letter of credit. Good luck getting a bank to go along with that. What's the old addage about pigs getting slaughtered?
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:20 am

Bond or no bond, a stay pending an appeal is discretionary. The Judge was dismissive of Vodicka's arguments; he isn't going to grant a stay pending an appeal.
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Postby mrydel » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:42 am

EastStang wrote:Regarding an Appeal Bond, I suspect that he would have to post 50% of his property and if he is still married to the Arkansas lady 50% of their community property. Do you think she'll sign off on the bond application? I think not. Federal Rules do permit an irrevocable letter of credit. Good luck getting a bank to go along with that. What's the old addage about pigs getting slaughtered?


The divorce is final. Do not know if any post divorce arrangements were pending on this deal, but it is final.
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Postby EastStang » Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:50 pm

Too bad, they looked like they deserved each other. There are some people who should not be allowed to get divorced. Spears and Fedderline fall into that category.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:28 pm

Lawsuit may jeopardize SMU bid for Bush libraryBy ANNA M. TINSLEY
STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER
Robert Tafel believes the future George W. Bush presidential library should be in Dallas.

But Tafel, a dentist, isn't backing down from a lawsuit against Southern Methodist University over a condominium complex that some speculate could be the site of such a library.

This week, a federal judge ruled on one of several issues pending in the case, giving SMU clear title to the complex -- a move that could clear the way for the university to take possession of the property.

But Tafel's attorney said he plans to ask the judge next week to freeze the ruling while it is appealed, which some say might put the college's site proposal in jeopardy.

"Dr. Tafel is not against the presidential library being in Dallas. He thinks it should be there," said Larry Friedman, a Dallas attorney representing Tafel, who filed the initial lawsuit with Gary Vodicka. "He's against the process SMU used in their attempt to acquire" the property.

"Now the question of title [could be] tied up in the Court of Appeals for a year or more."

SMU officials say they are pleased by this week's court ruling and believe that it should not be delayed.

"All that is hypothetical and conjecture at this point," said Brad Cheves, SMU's vice president for development and external affairs. "It should not be stayed, and it should not be overturned."

This comes as a site selection committee has indicated that it may decide where Bush's future library will be in the coming months.

Three contenders remain -- SMU, Baylor University and the University of Dallas -- and speculation swirls that the library could cost as much as $500 million. Many say SMU is the front-runner because it's first lady Laura Bush's alma mater.

But some wonder whether the proposed appeal and possible halt of decision could hurt SMU's chances.

"SMU by all accounts is rumored to be their first choice. But if this could be held up in the courts for a long time, the committee might move on to a different campus," said Allan Saxe, an associate professor of political science at the University of Texas at Arlington. "If this is going to be tied up in court, the University of Dallas or Baylor could probably make their move now, saying they have the land and they're ready to move on this.

"It's the logical thing to do," Saxe said. "Although, if the President and Mrs. Bush really want SMU, they can say they'll wait or see if SMU can expedite the court decision."

Cheves said SMU plans to evict any remaining tenants and demolish the complex as soon as the university can legally move forward. He said the property is key for SMU's "future strategic expansion" and could fill needs such as athletic fields, student housing and other facilities.

Tommye Lou Davis, director of the Bush library project for Baylor, said she doesn't know whether the court ruling will affect the committee's decision. University of Dallas President Frank Lazarus could not be reached for comment.

U.S. District Judge Jerry Buchmeyer ruled this week, in a partial summary judgment, that SMU has legal title to the University Gardens condominiums.

Tafel and Vodicka filed the lawsuit last year, saying that the university used intimidation and fraud to take the property for the library site. SMU officials have said they bought the property legally.

News reports have identified potential sites for a library, including this land, but SMU officials haven't publicly named sites.

Friedman said he plans to appeal this week's ruling to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in Louisiana. "The issue is still open," he said.


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Postby RE Tycoon » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:04 pm

Chron: Big names, big dollars in Bush library bid -
Baylor, SMU, Dallas pull out all stops for site that can be economic boon for host city

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hea ... 91487.html

I felt this article propped up Baylor and to a lesser extent UD. How does the mayor of DALLAS support a bid in IRVING!?! She is the dumbest person ever.
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Postby couch 'em » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:35 pm

So when will UP vote on the park issue?
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:11 am

The Vodicka camp is right now making a mistake. Presently, there is a final order determining the property belongs to SMU, which the Vodicka camp claims they will appeal. Fine.

The order was entered on the 7th; they have 10 days to file a notice of appeal, which is the 17th, give them until Monday the 18th under the federal rules. A notice of appeal is a very simple thing that can be whipped out in a matter of an hour; if you are very thorough, you can spend the better part of a day on it.

SMU is going to start tearing the condos down on the 18th unless someone stops them. Sure, they will leave Vodicka's building up while they evict him. But I will be shocked if there are not bulldozers there on Monday. And the more stuff that is torn down, before a Court hears the stay motion, the less likelihood that it will be granted.

The Vodicka camp is screwing up by not hurrying and filing its notice of appeal and trying to get the order stayed. The order becomes effective regardless of the fact that it is being appealed unless the Court stays its order. It is highly unlikely that the District Court will grant a stay, so the Vodicka Camp will have to appeal the stay decision as well on an emergency basis.
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