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Postby expony18 » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:36 pm

mrydel wrote:
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couch 'em wrote:I loved being called a racist by my professor when I disagreed with her position that a certain phone book cover was racist. It was a great example of civil debate and discussion.
yellow pages is racist... because it's yellow?


More likely the "white pages".
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Postby couch 'em » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:10 pm

whites and asians get phone books.... everyone else gets affirmative action. I think we are even.
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Postby bubba pony » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:03 am

heard KERA piece on public radio. was aired on NY City public radio.
here is the connection:

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Postby EastStang » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:17 am

Apparently someone in the Virginia legislature put forth a bill for Virginia to apologize for slavery. One of the rednecks in the legislature got on the floor and said, why should he apologize because he didn't own any slaves which was the correct argument. Then hyperbole got the best of him when he said, "Its kind of like making all the Jews apologize for killing Jesus". Now he has to apologize.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:47 am

http://www.pegasusnews.com/blogs/pegasu ... 7/goodwin/

Doris Kearns Goodwin supports SMU for Bush library
Square PegsBy Blair Lovern

Went to the Willis M. Tate Distinguished Lecture Series to hear Lacerte Family Lecture guest speaker Doris Kearns Goodwin at SMU Tuesday night. I didn't dress well enough for the lecture series name. But I sat way, WAY up top and no one in their luxurious fur coats down below could cast their gilded eyes upon me.

During Q&A time (which is always too short, SMU Tate people, and I am not the only who thinks this), I believe a person who said she was an SMU student asked DKG what she thought about all the library stuff. (Say that sentence like Paul Lynde.)

DKG didn't even take 0.00002 seconds to reply with something along the lines of, "Yes, I am glad you asked me that." I mean, this was like asking Mr. Trump about Ms. O'Donnell. It would have been funny if she had been a smart [deleted]. "I study presidents for a living, young lady, but honestly I have no idea what the hell you're talking about."

As much as I want everything in life to be like a Don Rickles show, I can't always get my wish. But DKG gave a most eloquent response in defense of SMU having the next presidential library as part of its campus, or nearby, or whatever it's going to be. I didn't take notes, sorry. But she mentioned how one of her sons served in Iraq and joined the U.S. Army soon after 9/11, and that these were most historic times for our country, and that we will need to have access to presidential records to make sense down the road about what was going on in America, and that she hoped SMU was the final choice, etc. She gave about a one-minute answer, I think. Maybe a minute and 10 seconds. I wish I had taken notes, again, I am sorry. But you know what? I didn't, so get over it. All I know is that they pack you in like sardines way up there in the McFarlin rafters, and the guy in the row behind me was leaning over enough that his face was above my head and I could hear him breathing. And after DKG gave her library defense answer, he whispered "OH!" like he was pinched and then said, "that was magnificent." And the audience clapped.


from the Daily campus:

During questions following the lecture, Goodwin was asked her opinion regarding the value of the Bush Presidential Library should it come to SMU. She was positive about what the library would mean for SMU, reflecting upon the importance of other presidential libraries in her work as a historian.

"Anyone who wants to relive this time will come to the library," Goodwin said. "For generations, people will be coming here to learn about 2001 and the past decade."

Goodwin's own son, who graduated from Harvard, decided to join the army after Sept. 11 and became a platoon leader in Baghdad.

Goodwin said she understood the controversy surrounding the placement of the library on SMU's campus but believes, "We have to learn from both the mistakes and successes of history," and that the museum would be "an enormous attribute."


Goodwin has far better intellectual and liberal credentials than just about any professor currently teaching at SMU and anybody else that doesn't want the Bush Library at SMU. She says the Bush Library is good for SMU.
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Postby NavyCrimson » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:56 am

Great info. I would be willing to bet that its such a small minority that's against this library in the first place. Long after these goofy lib 'teachers' leave, SMU will still be standing. Long run, they could care less about what is good for our school. :wink:
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Postby expony18 » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:24 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:http://www.pegasusnews.com/blogs/pegasusnewsblog/2007/jan/17/goodwin/

Doris Kearns Goodwin supports SMU for Bush library
Square PegsBy Blair Lovern

Went to the Willis M. Tate Distinguished Lecture Series to hear Lacerte Family Lecture guest speaker Doris Kearns Goodwin at SMU Tuesday night. I didn't dress well enough for the lecture series name. But I sat way, WAY up top and no one in their luxurious fur coats down below could cast their gilded eyes upon me.

During Q&A time (which is always too short, SMU Tate people, and I am not the only who thinks this), I believe a person who said she was an SMU student asked DKG what she thought about all the library stuff. (Say that sentence like Paul Lynde.)

DKG didn't even take 0.00002 seconds to reply with something along the lines of, "Yes, I am glad you asked me that." I mean, this was like asking Mr. Trump about Ms. O'Donnell. It would have been funny if she had been a smart [deleted]. "I study presidents for a living, young lady, but honestly I have no idea what the hell you're talking about."

As much as I want everything in life to be like a Don Rickles show, I can't always get my wish. But DKG gave a most eloquent response in defense of SMU having the next presidential library as part of its campus, or nearby, or whatever it's going to be. I didn't take notes, sorry. But she mentioned how one of her sons served in Iraq and joined the U.S. Army soon after 9/11, and that these were most historic times for our country, and that we will need to have access to presidential records to make sense down the road about what was going on in America, and that she hoped SMU was the final choice, etc. She gave about a one-minute answer, I think. Maybe a minute and 10 seconds. I wish I had taken notes, again, I am sorry. But you know what? I didn't, so get over it. All I know is that they pack you in like sardines way up there in the McFarlin rafters, and the guy in the row behind me was leaning over enough that his face was above my head and I could hear him breathing. And after DKG gave her library defense answer, he whispered "OH!" like he was pinched and then said, "that was magnificent." And the audience clapped.


from the Daily campus:

During questions following the lecture, Goodwin was asked her opinion regarding the value of the Bush Presidential Library should it come to SMU. She was positive about what the library would mean for SMU, reflecting upon the importance of other presidential libraries in her work as a historian.

"Anyone who wants to relive this time will come to the library," Goodwin said. "For generations, people will be coming here to learn about 2001 and the past decade."

Goodwin's own son, who graduated from Harvard, decided to join the army after Sept. 11 and became a platoon leader in Baghdad.

Goodwin said she understood the controversy surrounding the placement of the library on SMU's campus but believes, "We have to learn from both the mistakes and successes of history," and that the museum would be "an enormous attribute."


Goodwin has far better intellectual and liberal credentials than just about any professor currently teaching at SMU and anybody else that doesn't want the Bush Library at SMU. She says the Bush Library is good for SMU.
im sure the faculty was happy with her comments :lol:
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Postby bubba pony » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:16 pm

Doris Kearns Goodwin is an excellent speaker/author and knows what she is talking about. I don't like Bush but this is not a monument to Bush. It will hold information long sought after for many years to come. Other Universities that housed presidential libraries have reaped rewards.
If Doris says we should be grateful to receive it then I'm with her. Doris is hot.
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Postby smupony94 » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:41 pm

You are kidding about her being hot right? Intelligent yes, hot no.
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Postby Corso » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:12 pm

NavyCrimson wrote:Great info. I would be willing to bet that its such a small minority that's against this library in the first place. Long after these goofy lib 'teachers' leave, SMU will still be standing. Long run, they could care less about what is good for our school. :wink:
Oh please. I would venture to guess that the vast majority of the faculty - regardless of their political leanings and ideologies - do care about what is good for SMU, if for no other reason than the fact that they look better if they work for a university with a strong/improving reputation. As for the school still standing after "these goofy lib teachers" retire/move on, they'll be replaced by other teachers. Just like today's faculty, some will be liberal, some will be conservative and some will fall somewhere in between. The idea that professors are somehow lumped into a single political ideology is amusing, if nothing else.
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Postby NavyCrimson » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:17 pm

I was referring to 'for' & 'against' the library.

But as for lumping the professors in a category, WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM CORSO? LOL :lol:

I have seen that most b-schools are somewhat the exception, though
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Postby Bergermeister » Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:56 pm

I'm sure most of you have visited presidential libraries. Of the 4 I have visited (the museum/exhibit portions), I like the LBJ Library the best. I never was a fan of LBJ, but I've always been a fan of the presidency. I did not agree with the expansion of the war/escalation of troops in Viet Nam. Tens of thousands of soldiers lost their lives. He lied to the people, cheated to get elected to the U.S. Senate, cheated on his wife, held his dog up by his ears, smoked cigarettes and was a boozer and the king of backroom deals. The tour is fascinating and offers intriguing insight to the man and the president. I'm glad the GWB Presidential Library will be at SMU. The opponents are Bush "haters" and, therefore, have little validity in their arguments.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:07 pm

The Bevo, er...Belo Corp. Capital Bureau recently conducted an exclusive interview with President Bush which will soon air on Ch. 8 and other affiliated stations. The president responded to the critics of the library being at SMU with the following statement:

"I'm close to making a decision, and as you know I'm leaning heavily toward SMU. And we're having discussions. Don Evans, for example is having discussions with the SMU leadership. I am grateful by the support that campuses that were considered all across the state have expressed. People said we really want you to come.

"I understand there are some who have reservations, and my admonition to them, or my advice to them is, just understand that a library and institute would enhance education. It would be a place for interesting discussion. It would be a place for people to be able to express their views and write and think, and these universities I think understand that and are excited about the prospects, and so am I.

”And we have to make sure that everybody understands what everybody's point of view is and I should be close to making a decision."

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/n ... 3df56.html
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Postby EastStang » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:50 am

Here is how the decision will be made.
Laura: "George you know what happens if SMU doesn't get that library?"
W- "Yes dear".
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Postby Junior » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:26 pm

I finally looked at the petition, and lo and behold, I recognized a few of the names as former classmates.

I didn't like them very much back then either.
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