Missouri

[Puckhead48E]

Interesting conversation with coworker who played in college, had several high-profile friends from home who played pro, and who still has contacts with people who are coaching now. Said this is a common issue that boils just below the surface, more prevalent at midwestern schools than anywhere else. That quote included a few posters prior hit the nail on the head for him...the soft bigotry of diminished expectations. Combine that with what he and his peers view as administrations often viewing the players as employees vice valuable members of the student body and you get situations like this. Of note, he said that while not surprised this is happening at Missouri, he is shocked it hasn't happened yet at Michigan or Michigan State. Says there is a real issue there, but the overall success of the program keeps the players quiet because they are "compensated" much like Hoopmanix recalled VT players are with no actual attendance requirements for classes as well as direct and indirect financial "support."

Interesting take. A good guy to talk about regarding thing like this because he has a vested interest (he is black) and is very pro-student athlete but in a way that would demand more of them academically and more from the schools to prepare the 99% for successful lives after sports. Was a good conversation.

He is also the guy who watched a friend who played in the NFL have a certain SEC school have a body show up to take the SATs because the guy could barely operate at a middle school level. Ahhh, the fun of big time college sports.

Had 2 friends play ball at Michigan State and they had to go to class and get their work. Also worked with a guy from that played ball at Minnesota and they had to go to class and get their work. So your friend is not accurate.

Michigan state was more regarding racial issues currently on campus. Had a cousin who played for UVA and the team was required to attend classes there. They only allowed him to enroll in certain majors and specific professors. It happens everywhere. Individual student experiences differ. Attendance requirements don't inherently equate to a program supporting the educational needs of their student athletes in a way that facilitates growth and success post college. Look at OSU in the 90's, when many football players could select a major where 90% of their class were taught by coaches. They had to attend..because class was a glorified film session. SI did a good article on it regarding a running back who transferred from OSU as a senior and entered Maryland as a freshman because they refused to accept most of his BS credits.


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[mrydel]

It is over

[skyscraper]

The student athletes have a lot of power. The president doesn't resign with out them doing this.

[Puckhead48E]

Wow. I can't see the NCAA being too happy about this. Then again, they may have supported it to take the issue off the front pages and prevent what would have been a PR nightmare this weekend. If student athletes in big money sports can band together, there are other areas they may want to get involved in. Not attempting to mitigate the impact at all...very few issues are important enough for a team from one school, let alone multiple schools worth of athletes, to risk so much with such action. I'm sure the legal scholars amongst us can provide actual data, but a larger group of students acting in concert could likely have much more direct impact than the indirect attempt last year to unionize at a few schools.

[stc9]

UofM President resigned this morning.

[East Coast Mustang]

After 300 years, racism in America finally ended this morning with the resignation of the UM president

[Rebel10]

The student athletes have a lot of power. The president doesn't resign with out them doing this.

Faculty got involved as well this morning. Students, Faculty, and student athletes all together.

[footballdad]

It's a college campus, is anyone really surprised? A week in the media and we'll be on to the next 'crisis'.

[MustangStealth]

After 300 years, racism in America finally ended this morning with the resignation of the UM president

Racism is not dead. I'm going on a hunger strike until more athletic scholarships are given to Asian-Americans!

[Rebel10]

After 300 years, racism in America finally ended this morning with the resignation of the UM president

Racism is not dead. I'm going on a hunger strike until more athletic scholarships are given to Asian-Americans!

Go ahead.

[gostangs]

Taking the campus hostage to fulfill a misguided witch hunt does not seem like a great way to advance your cause. This is going in invite more PC nonsense. Real issues should be resolved with real discussion, not all this horse manure.

[Rebel10]

Taking the campus hostage to fulfill a misguided witch hunt does not seem like a great way to advance your cause. This is going in invite more PC nonsense. Real issues should be resolved with real discussion, not all this horse manure.

From what was said they had been discussing issues for years and he had been blowing them off. When you blow people off for a long period of time things escalate. Kind of like when Chavez led the immigrant workers to strike. Don't see how they took a campus hostage like you are trying to spin it, no one held a gun to anyone's head.

[MustangStealth]

It should make the ringleader feel good that he went on hunger strike and the president brushed him off. Then when the football players threatened to skip a practice, the president resigned.

[Rebel10]

It should make the ringleader feel good that he went on hunger strike and the president brushed him off. Then when the football players threatened to skip a practice, the president resigned.

You forgot the faculty support the students this morning. I think that is what really did it imo.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missouri-facul ... d=35068809

[Prideful Pony]

Taking the campus hostage to fulfill a misguided witch hunt does not seem like a great way to advance your cause. This is going in invite more PC nonsense. Real issues should be resolved with real discussion, not all this horse manure.

And if, hypothetically, the president who should be both leading and participating in those real discussions has refused to be a part of the solution? Students have very limited leverage when they feel they're being ignored.

I don't feel like researching the background deep enough to have a detailed discussion on who has the moral high ground here; I just don't understand how quick some of y'all are to dismiss the students' concerns out of hand. That knee-jerk reaction has a whiff of paternalism about it.