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Do you remember when?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:12 am
by southernpony
Help, please. I am researching two stories from the late 70's.
1. I am looking for SMU football schedules from 78, 79 and 80. I have googled myself silly and can't find 'em. Also, highlights from those games - i.e. big plays, whatever happened to?... Will I have to actually go to the library and do real research? Microfilm! Nooooo.

2. And, for those of you who spent your time on Greenville and the surrounding area in those days, as part of a second story, I am researching the names of clubs and restaurants in the SMU area.
There was a club named "Up Your Alley" over on Yale. And, nearby there was a "dive" bar where SMU football players hung out.

And what about the Point Restaurants? Sort of the sports bars of their time?
Any memories you have would be great. Apparently I spent too much time in those clubs because my memory is fairly fuzzy.
:oops:

Thanks for any help/ideas you can send my way.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:11 pm
by The XtC
1980:

1980-Southern Methodist (SWC)
9/13 vs. North Texas (6-5) W 28 9
9/20 vs. *Texas Christian (1-10) W 17 14
9/27 vs. Texas-Arlington (3-8) W 52 16
10/4 @ Tulane (7-5) W 31 21
10/11 @ *Baylor (10-2) L 28 32
10/18 vs. *Houston (7-5) L 11 13
10/25 @ *Texas (7-5) W 20 6
11/1 vs. *Texas A&M (4-7) W 20 0
11/8 @ *Rice (5-6) W 34 14
11/15 @ *Texas Tech (5-6) L 0 14
11/23 vs. *Arkansas (7-5) W 31 7
12/19 vs. Brigham Young (12-1) L 45 46 @ San Diego, CA Holiday Bowl


1979:
(SWC)
9/8 vs. *Rice (1-10) W 35 17
9/15 @ *Texas Christian (2-8-1) W 27 7
9/22 vs. North Texas (5-6) W 20 9
9/29 @ Tulane (9-3) L 17 24
10/13 vs. *Baylor (8-4) L 21 24
10/20 @ *Houston (11-1) L 10 37
10/27 vs. *Texas (9-3) L 6 30
11/3 @ *Texas A&M (6-5) L 14 47
11/10 @ Wichita State (1-10) W 34 0
11/17 vs. *Texas Tech (3-6-2) W 35 10
11/24 vs. *Arkansas (10-2) L 7 31 @ Little Rock, AR

1978(SWC)
9/9 vs. *Texas Christian (2-9) W 45 14
9/16 vs. Florida (4-7) W 35 25 @ Orlando, FL
9/23 @ Penn State (11-1) L 21 26
10/7 @ Ohio State (7-4-1) T 35 35
10/14 @ *Baylor (3-8) W 28 21
10/21 vs. *Houston (9-3) L 28 42
10/28 @ *Texas (9-3) L 3 22
11/4 vs. *Texas A&M (8-4) L 17 20
11/11 @ *Rice (2-9) W 58 0
11/18 @ *Texas Tech (7-4) L 16 19
11/25 vs. *Arkansas (9-2-1) L 14 27

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:01 pm
by PK
This pdf should be of some help in the future when you need SMU football historical information.

http://smumustangs.cstv.com/auto_pdf/p_ ... nformation

It covers 1915 thru 2004...hopefully, it will be updated at some time.

The yearly schedules and results begin on page 27 of 34.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:01 pm
by EastStang
There was Up Your Alley, the Stables, and Cardinal Puff's in that Yale/Greenville area. All very popular in that era. There was also the Old Church where a lot of students went back then, but I can't remember exactly where that was, off South Greenville somewhere. Campisi's had more Goodfellas in those days. Martin's Mexican Restaurant had pitchers of Margarita's and they were potent. At that point in time the drinking age was 18.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:30 pm
by Buckethead
Old Church was down in the Knox/Henderson area. We also use to go to
Andrews on Mckinney ave.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:39 pm
by PK
Old Church was on Cole Ave. a block south of Knox Street. Cardinal Puff's is now Ozona.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:26 pm
by southernpony
The schedules. Thank you. And, the link to all the statistics. I got lost in the old numbers and names for almost two hours. What a huge help.

If you look at the '78 season, what stands out? What were the big moments...not necessarily the wins, but the "Wow. I'll always remember that" moments.?

I don't remember the Stables. (sounds like a strip club). I do remember the others. And, the Old Church. I feel guilty all over again. So glad my mama never found out my friends were drinking in a "church."

Also, got a note from someone who mentioned a bar called Ginny's or maybe that was the name of the owner. I seem to remember that. It had pool tables and pictures of every SMU team covering the walls.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:48 pm
by Stallion
1979

Dickerson/James and Waggoner-all freshman. Mike Ford got hurt and Jim Bob Taylor became QB and struggle-went on the All-ACC at Georgia Tech and NFL. Waggoner ran for about 860 yards, James ran for about 800 and Dickerson after a great debut against Rice with 123 yards ended with only about 320. The Rice game was the highlight with the excitement of the Blue Chip backfield. We took it to Tech at Texas Stadium but Ron Meyer had a "great" idea of putting both Waggoner and Dickerson as KO returners. Both were hurt on same KO. Waggoner never played again with back injury. Dickerson was done for the year. Pete Collins was Freshman All-American and could have been one of the All-Time great SMU LBs until he was tragically killed in a car accident in August.

Stan's Blue Note and the Waterhole too.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:56 pm
by Stallion
1978

SMU emerges as a competitive Football team in successive road games against Florida(beat them before they were Florida), Ohio St(one of the greatest SMU QB performances of all time-SMU ties Ohio St. 35-35 but missed about a 38 yard FG on final play that would have won it-I was there!!!), almost beat Penn St(something like 26-21). People began to take notice of the SMU Football program. I believe Emanuel Tolbert was All-American. Mustang Mania was rampant.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:01 am
by Stallion
Good reference -90 Greatest Moments in SMU History

http://smumustangs.cstv.com/sports/m-fo ... ments.html

See Nos 22, 25, 34, 44, 54, 56, 70 and 78.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:11 am
by Stallion
Note

SMU's Records improve as recruiting classes improved talent. Magic formula for turning a program around-Recruit outstanding classes for at least 2-3+ years and count 3 or 4 from the first great class. I'm telling you it works

1976 3-8
1977 4-7
1978 4-6-1
1979 5-6
1980 8-4
1981 10-1
1982 11-0-1

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:59 am
by SoCal_Pony
Stallion wrote:1979

The Rice game was the highlight with the excitement of the Blue Chip backfield.


Russ Potts and Mustang Mania ruled.

That Rice game had some 50,000 fans in attendance at Texas Stadium, including Greg Morris from Mission Impossible fame.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:37 am
by mrydel
The Stables was where Milo Butterfingers is now. It was very popular with the 18-21 crowd (drinking age was 21+). I bartended there for a while. Beer and wine coolers only, at least during my time (68-72). Shut down a lot by the enforcement folks.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:04 am
by PK
mrydel wrote:The Stables was where Milo Butterfingers is now. It was very popular with the 18-21 crowd (drinking age was 21+). I bartended there for a while. Beer and wine coolers only, at least during my time (68-72). Shut down a lot by the enforcement folks.
You forgot to mention the wet t-shirt contest there too...or was that later? Then didn't the Stables become Up Your Alley featuring the Bowley and Wilson show?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:16 am
by mrydel
PK wrote:
mrydel wrote:The Stables was where Milo Butterfingers is now. It was very popular with the 18-21 crowd (drinking age was 21+). I bartended there for a while. Beer and wine coolers only, at least during my time (68-72). Shut down a lot by the enforcement folks.
You forgot to mention the wet t-shirt contest there too...or was that later? Then didn't the Stables become Up Your Alley featuring the Bowley and Wilson show?


It was the Stables during my entire time unless it possibly changed my last semester. I lived on the golf course during my last term.