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Postby mr. pony » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:48 am

This Vodicka is a real tool. He has no case. They're not even building the library on the University Gardens site.

How about an investigation into who's providing support to Vodicka in his
never ending attempt to embarass/hassle the Bushes? DMN won't get into that....
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Postby EastStang » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:10 am

The school just wanted the land (possibly for the Bush Library or possibly for future expansion). It has long been the policy of the school to acquire as much land around the school as possible for future growth. If Moody ever was going to be replaced, a new arena would probably be placed closer to Mockingbird for traffic reasons, and for aesthetic reasons. For Vodicka and Taffel, this is just a case of playing your hand too far and getting nothing. They wanted to be the last people bought out, so that they could jack their prices up to hold up values, and got burned. Now they figure that if they become big enough jerks, that the school will pay them whatever they want. They should cut their losses and move on.
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Postby couch 'em » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:13 am

All these rich SMU alums and rich Bush supporters - why hasn't Vodicka just disappeared yet?
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Postby EastStang » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:20 am

From what I've heard, they've been offered quite a bit of money and got a little bit too greedy.
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Postby Dooby » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:40 am

I have heard stories of the settlement discussions as well. Money is only part of what he wants. Vodicka is off his rocker.
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Postby ponyte » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:04 am

Man, I thought the legal attacks on the Clinton Library were excessive. Clinton got off easy with only a few dozen suits, one violated court order and no depositions.
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Postby mrydel » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:06 am

Yeah. But we Arkies have always had a fondness for mobile homes.
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Postby smupony94 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:55 am

ponyte wrote:Man, I thought the legal attacks on the Clinton Library were excessive. Clinton got off easy with only a few dozen suits, one violated court order and no depositions.


I must be dirty today

I first read your comment as Clinton got off easy with only a few dozen sluts
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Postby ponyte » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:03 am

smupony94 wrote:
ponyte wrote:Man, I thought the legal attacks on the Clinton Library were excessive. Clinton got off easy with only a few dozen suits, one violated court order and no depositions.


I must be dirty today

I first read your comment as Clinton got off easy with only a few dozen sluts


For shame! All good Arkansasns know that a few dozen sluts is beneath Clinton's capabilities!
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Postby Bergermeister » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:55 pm

couch 'em wrote: why hasn't Vodicka just disappeared yet?

Be patient. These high-profile hits take time. I think there is a waiting list.
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Postby CalallenStang » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:00 pm

Dooby wrote:I have heard stories of the settlement discussions as well. Money is only part of what he wants. Vodicka is off his rocker.


Any specifics?
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Postby OC Mustang » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:11 pm

The Board-approved master plan back in 1992-93 called for acquisition of the University Gardens in a piecemeal fashion. It was not a priority, IMHO, until after 1995, upon Turner's hiring. In 1994, an attempt was made to turn UG into what is now Mockingbird Station, with emphasis on student housing (the outfit trying to do it was good at student housing & multi-family at the time). The time horizon for getting it done wasn't acceptable to the ROI required in order to do the project.

Fastforward 10+ years, and here we are. I think Vodicka is a) wrong, b) knows it, and c) doesn't care. He's not on a schedule.

The fact that UG doesn't play into the actual library all that much is kind of irrelevant at this point. SMU still wants the property, and it will be adjacent to a Presidential Library. Six on the one hand, a half-dozen on the other.
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Postby EastStang » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:31 pm

This calls for some truly pathetic and useless gestures. Now who's out there to do that?

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Postby PK » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:09 pm

I believe that SMU has been concerned for awhile now that at some point in time some non-SMU related commercial interest would acquire the property and cut off SMU's expansion capabilities. SMU's only real option for expansion of the campus is to the east. They can't really jump over Hillcrest or Mockingbird and expanding north would raise a flurry of objections from UP.
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