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It does apparently make everything alot cooler.

Enjoy the Vancouver Summer Olympics. 10 Day forecast-not a single hour close to freezing with highs in the upper 40s and about half the days around 50-53

Be sure and check the average temps in Vancouver...even the "normal" this time of year is still above freezing.

I have-warmest winter on record. Its called climate change. What's so hard to understand-glacier melt off, rising sea-levels, increasing moisture in the atmosphere which freezes when below 32. It hasn't been unseasonanly cold during either the Dallas snowfall or the Eastern seaboard snowstorms-its the presence of additional moisture-not bitter cold that has been the trademarks of these storms. What is unusual this year is that it is an El Nino year-its been predicted since September (see Link) that Dallas was going to have more moisture this winter-hardly surprising moisture froze in that "fridged" 33 degree weather.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... ecord.html

http://weatherblog.dallasnews.com/archi ... onger.html

I enjoyed "global warming" and our record snowfall, with a nice fire with my valentine last night.

"Increasing moisture in the atmosphere which freezes when below 32".

Exactly. Increase water vapor decreases variability in temperature. The most obvious example is a low humidity desert where the extremes of day and night temps are so dramatic. Water vapor tends to narrow that temp range by holding heat in the air. Thus increase in water vapor would naturally increase measured temps over a long time. However, there is no data to verify the results of higher water vapor over an extended period of time. We don’t know what is a normal or abnormal result of increasing atmospheric water vapor.

The issue of climate change is very interesting as it depends on the definitions used. Does an average increase in temp produce cataclysmic events? If so, then the period prior to about 1320 would have been the worse in recorded human history (record highs as evident by vineyards in England and agrarian success by the Norse in Greenland). Yet, this period saw the increase of human population in Europe by 100% over a relatively quick timeframe (about 100-150) years. It was the coming of the mini Ice Age that devastated populations and reduced usable land for agriculture.

The model (some would say the global warming/climate change Holy Grail) is that the molecule CO2 will rise to the upper atmosphere and act as a heat insulator. This theory has never been proven using the scientific method. Indeed, many question the assumption that a heavier that air molecule such as CO2 can defy simple laws of physic and rise to the upper atmosphere. It is theorized that CO2 must be in the upper atmosphere to cause significant warming.

The other interesting thing about the global warming/climate change theory is the total lack of control for the multiple variables that affect climate and weather. There is nothing in the current ‘science’ that accounts for sun activity, increasing water vapor or the rising Mongolian Plateau (huge land mass that rises about an inch a year and has impact on climate usually generated by the arctic weather patterns). The rising Mongolian Plateau has been credited with significant warming weather pattern changes affecting Asia, the Subcontinent and Pan Pacific region for decades prior to the current Global warming/climate change controversy.

And last is the complete lack of knowledge about common climate changes and there patterns. The globe exited the mini Ice Age about 150 years ago. There will naturally be warming associated with that event. However, climate experts have not determined what is a normal warming pattern and normal duration of that warming period. Far all we know, warming after a significant cool period my contiune for centuries.

The beauty if all this is that we don’t know what is normal or what is abnormal. Thus, we can have very long and heated discussion about global warming/climate change at any c-o-cktail party and regardless of the discussion, we can never be wrong.

global warming is only a theory - to treat it as fact is poor science

Stallion wrote:What is unusual this year is that it is an El Nino year-its been predicted since September (see Link) that Dallas was going to have more moisture this winter-hardly surprising moisture froze in that "fridged" 33 degree weather.

huh?

Stallion wrote:I have-warmest winter on record. Its called climate change. What's so hard to understand-glacier melt off, rising sea-levels, increasing moisture in the atmosphere which freezes when below 32. It hasn't been unseasonanly cold during either the Dallas snowfall or the Eastern seaboard snowstorms-its the presence of additional moisture-not bitter cold that has been the trademarks of these storms. What is unusual this year is that it is an El Nino year-its been predicted since September (see Link) that Dallas was going to have more moisture this winter-hardly surprising moisture froze in that "fridged" 33 degree weather.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... ecord.html

http://weatherblog.dallasnews.com/archi ... onger.html

well now I am impressed. Stallion knew all along that Dallas would have snowfall the likes of which it has seen only once in 99 years? That's talent on loan from the fellow upstairs, folks.

Ah...if only we actually knew as much as we think we know.

PK wrote:Ah...if only we actually knew as much as we think we know.

I actually think I know twice as much as you think I know. You just think I only know half as much as I think I know.

I have been outside in shorts and a t-shirt. Sorry, no short shorts.

therefore I am