Burger wars, re-visited

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:56 am

"Diners, Drive-Ins & Dives" hosted by Guy Fieri on The Food Network aired an episode last week from Twisted Root in Deep Ellum. Great PR for 'em! Guy looked like he had a GREAT time there where he sampled several of their items and spoke with the owners about their unique selections.

Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex · Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:25 pm

MrMustang1965 wrote:Great PR for 'em! Guy looked like he had a GREAT time there where he sampled several of their items and spoke with the owners about their unique selections.

If you were eating food for a living on someone else's dime, you'd have a great time too.

smupony94 · Post by **smupony94** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:33 pm

I saw Anthony Bourdain at Stubb's here in Austin recently. Cool guy.

couch 'em · Post by **couch 'em** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:55 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:Thats BS, only smokers think the bar scene was killed in chicago...bar/lounge scene is far better now...

Kuma's corner in chicago for Burger...

I still don't understandy why we can't let smokers have their bars and the rest of us patronize everywhere else. You can't even have a hookah place in Dallas now.

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:09 pm

couch 'em wrote:
NickSMU17 wrote:Thats BS, only smokers think the bar scene was killed in chicago...bar/lounge scene is far better now...

Kuma's corner in chicago for Burger...

I still don't understandy why we can't let smokers have their bars and the rest of us patronize everywhere else. You can't even have a hookah place in Dallas now.

Because everyone likes a cool bar, not just smokers, and second hand smoke sucks.

I never smoked out of one of those fancy contraptions, but maybe it falls under the same exception as cigar rooms.

couch 'em · Post by **couch 'em** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:41 pm

jtstang wrote:Because everyone likes a cool bar, not just smokers, and second hand smoke sucks.

If there was a market for cool, smoke free bars, someone could make a killing opening one.

I never smoked out of one of those fancy contraptions, but maybe it falls under the same exception as cigar rooms.

There isn't REALLY an exception for cigar rooms. Only one place in the whole city qualified, barely, and you can't open any new ones in the future. They are basically banned also.

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:07 pm

Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex wrote:
MrMustang1965 wrote:Great PR for 'em! Guy looked like he had a GREAT time there where he sampled several of their items and spoke with the owners about their unique selections.

If you were eating food for a living on someone else's dime, you'd have a great time too.

ATOs are good at mooching.

Red+BlueDude · Post by **Red+BlueDude** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:32 pm

Had a burger at The Dubliner - not the Dallas version, the one in Washington (near Union Station and Capitol Hill). Pretty good - very flavorful burger, and the fries were much better than I remembered.

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:29 pm

Elevation Burger coming to Dallas.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/New-Organic-.html

from KXAS, Ch. 5

If you├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼├óΓÇ₧┬óre a health food junky yet always envious of your less health-conscious friends ability to eat food proffered from a window in under 30 seconds, while everything you want to eat is only sold at approximately three grocery stores in Dallas and requires actual cooking and preparation time totaling at least 15 minutes and kitchen gear like knives and the stove, then it├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼├óΓÇ₧┬ós a great day for you.
An Arlington, Va.-based company, Elevation Burger, plans to expand its presence into several new cities including Dallas.
Elevation Burger is an eco-friendly, carbon-footprint-less restaurant that serves made-to-order burgers featuring organic, grass-fed, free-range beef. They cook their French fries in olive oil and make their cookies with organic eggs and butter.
Not stopping their environmentally friendly mission at merely the food, the buildings themselves are made with renewable materials such as bamboo flooring, low- or no-BOV paints, recycled bead board and acoustic ceiling tiles, compact fluorescent bulbs and energy-efficient equipment.
Of course, nothing claiming to be healthy could match the miraculously short amount of time between a talking ordering menu and a the appearance of food at a window, but the owner of the restaurant chain said he is testing a (top secret) way to shorten cooking time to five minutes.
Right now it takes about 6-12 minutes to receive your order at Elevation Burger.
The new restaurant should be open by 2010.

WildHorse · Post by **WildHorse** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:46 pm

MrMustang1965 wrote:Elevation Burger coming to Dallas.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/New-Organic-.html

from KXAS, Ch. 5

If you├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼├óΓÇ₧┬óre a health food junky yet always envious of your less health-conscious friends ability to eat food proffered from a window in under 30 seconds, while everything you want to eat is only sold at approximately three grocery stores in Dallas and requires actual cooking and preparation time totaling at least 15 minutes and kitchen gear like knives and the stove, then it├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼├óΓÇ₧┬ós a great day for you.
An Arlington, Va.-based company, Elevation Burger, plans to expand its presence into several new cities including Dallas.
Elevation Burger is an eco-friendly, carbon-footprint-less restaurant that serves made-to-order burgers featuring organic, grass-fed, free-range beef. They cook their French fries in olive oil and make their cookies with organic eggs and butter.
Not stopping their environmentally friendly mission at merely the food, the buildings themselves are made with renewable materials such as bamboo flooring, low- or no-BOV paints, recycled bead board and acoustic ceiling tiles, compact fluorescent bulbs and energy-efficient equipment.
Of course, nothing claiming to be healthy could match the miraculously short amount of time between a talking ordering menu and a the appearance of food at a window, but the owner of the restaurant chain said he is testing a (top secret) way to shorten cooking time to five minutes.
Right now it takes about 6-12 minutes to receive your order at Elevation Burger.
The new restaurant should be open by 2010.

Sounds good. I'll gladly sample.

Last week, I was in Dallas and did two burgers in one day (my cardiologist would be thrilled). We had lunch at the new First and 10, and it was awesome. I think the new owners get on PonyFans.com every now and then: KUDOS on your place. Love the place, including the fact that it doesn't smell like an ashtray anymore, and the burger remains fantastic (one suggestion: tell the chef to cut back on the salt on the cottage fries).

Then, for dinner, we went to Jake's - the Uptown location. I hadn't eaten there in years (never at that location), and I was impressed. The burger was much, much better than I remembered.

I'll be back - to both. In fact, this whole topic is making me hungry for another burger right now.

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:58 pm

WildHorse wrote:We had lunch at the new First and 10, and it was awesome. I think the new owners get on PonyFans.com every now and then: KUDOS on your place. Love the place, including the fact that it doesn't smell like an ashtray anymore, and the burger remains fantastic (one suggestion: tell the chef to cut back on the salt on the cottage fries).

The new First and 10 is owned by the same folks who are behind Prego on Greenville Ave. and in Preston Forest Shopping Center.

Dutch · Post by **Dutch** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:02 am

MrMustang1965 wrote:
WildHorse wrote:We had lunch at the new First and 10, and it was awesome. I think the new owners get on PonyFans.com every now and then: KUDOS on your place. Love the place, including the fact that it doesn't smell like an ashtray anymore, and the burger remains fantastic (one suggestion: tell the chef to cut back on the salt on the cottage fries).
The new First and 10 is owned by the same folks who are behind Prego on Greenville Ave. and in Preston Forest Shopping Center.

MM65: That's partially true. There are 5 of us. All are SMU alums from different generations - 2 from the early 80s & 3 from the late 90s - who have different backgrounds and experience that we bring to the table. ONE of our partners owns the Prego Express at Preston&Forest. His Father owns the Prego on Greenville. Yes, same family, but just wanted to clarify that for you.

WildHorse: sorry about the seasoning on the fries. we're working on quality control, and have bought some new equipment to help with that. When we first opened, they weren't seasoned enough. We welcome any input and will take it into consideration.

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:05 pm

Dutch wrote:
MrMustang1965 wrote:
WildHorse wrote:We had lunch at the new First and 10, and it was awesome. I think the new owners get on PonyFans.com every now and then: KUDOS on your place. Love the place, including the fact that it doesn't smell like an ashtray anymore, and the burger remains fantastic (one suggestion: tell the chef to cut back on the salt on the cottage fries).
The new First and 10 is owned by the same folks who are behind Prego on Greenville Ave. and in Preston Forest Shopping Center.

MM65: That's partially true. There are 5 of us. All are SMU alums from different generations - 2 from the early 80s & 3 from the late 90s - who have different backgrounds and experience that we bring to the table. ONE of our partners owns the Prego Express at Preston&Forest. His Father owns the Prego on Greenville. Yes, same family, but just wanted to clarify that for you.

WildHorse: sorry about the seasoning on the fries. we're working on quality control, and have bought some new equipment to help with that. When we first opened, they weren't seasoned enough. We welcome any input and will take it into consideration.

Dutch: thank you for the clarification. Didn't mean to intentionally exclude anyone. I'm excited that SMU fans/alums are behind the new First & 10! Tony is a GREAT guy and we patronize Prego at Preston & Forest often. He always talks SMU with us when we go in there to dine. We'll be over to First & 10 soon! BornRed&Blue (my wife) says the ribs are some of the best she's ever had! I hope ya'll didn't change the recipe!

The XtC · Post by **The XtC** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:09 pm

Dutch wrote:
PonyFan wrote:Craving the original Point Burger.

Any word on the rumor that the place might reopen under new management?

All the best to our friend Mr. Bailey.

Yeah, it's true. Word is it should be open in 3-4 weeks.

Location?

couch 'em · Post by **couch 'em** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:29 pm

Potential new burger alert.

Just happened to see a "coming soon" at skillman and abrams for a place called "Stone Elephant Bar and Grill". Sounds like they'll have a burger. Anyone know any info on if the place will be good?