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The Vast Majority of Successful Coaches DO NOT Call Plays

Postby Stallion » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:49 pm

a discussion I had with a Baylor alum this weekend peaked my interest about whether Philip Montgomery is just Art Briles' little buddy or is he a big part of the offense. Turns out Art Briles has turned most of the play calling to Montgomery. In fact most Top Coaches do NOT call plays. I think that's something to remember because everybody seems to want to hire Coordinators and pans the manager coach like Brown. Just remember you are not hiring a Coordinator but the guy who runs the program which requires different skill sets. Here's a run down of the top national programs and who is calling plays but the following is an excerpt regarding Briles:

Baylor Coach Art Briles is one of the brilliant offensive minds in coaching. His Bears have scored 19 touchdowns in two games this season and lead the nation with a 69.5 points-per-game average. Yet even Briles has turned over most of the play calling to coordinator Philip Montgomery.

"I've really backed off here the last year or two," Briles said. "I think it's really helped me and it's helped us as a football team. It's allowed me to do more things."


http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/17 ... g-20130918
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Re: The Vast Majority of Successful Coaches DO NOT Call Pla

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:53 pm

Thanks for letting us know that Montgomery calls most of the plays. Put him near the top of coaching candidate list now.
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Postby mrydel » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:13 pm

According to the article on Yahoo he is very weak in recruiting. I realize the assistants are the ones more involved but if he actually "doesn't like" national attention would he be able to attract the type of assistants he would need.
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Postby Rebel10 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:18 pm

mrydel wrote:According to the article on Yahoo he is very weak in recruiting. I realize the assistants are the ones more involved but if he actually "doesn't like" national attention would he be able to attract the type of assistants he would need.


Could you post the link to the yahoo article? I would like to read it.
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The Vast Majority of Successful Coaches DO NOT Call Plays

Postby mrydel » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:24 pm

I am too old for that capability. There is a Yahoo article about Mack Brown as a possible candidate for SMU. Within that article is a link to a list of possible SMU candidates (all the ones we have discussed) with brief backgrounds.

It is an SB Nation article if that helps.
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Postby mrydel » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:48 pm

Thank you
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Postby skurtn » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:57 pm

Funny that this article was found and posted. Some of my colleagues and I were talking about this as well.
Yet, it didn't really register to me (e.g. due to my stupidity), that a good recruiter/play caller isn't necessarily a good "head" coach.
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Postby sbsmith » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:06 pm

mrydel wrote:According to the article on Yahoo he is very weak in recruiting. I realize the assistants are the ones more involved but if he actually "doesn't like" national attention would he be able to attract the type of assistants he would need.




Philip Montgomery: Offensive coordinator, Baylor

He commands almost no media attention, and in fact appears to avoid the spotlight. Former Baylor quarterback Nick Florence told ESPN last year that Montgomery "doesn't like" national attention. That demeanor might be reflected in recruiting, where despite Baylor's star-studded classes, Montgomery has been credited only with a handful of modest recruits.
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Postby Rebel10 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:06 pm

skurtn wrote:Funny that this article was found and posted. Some of my colleagues and I were talking about this as well.
Yet, it didn't really register to me (e.g. due to my stupidity), that a good recruiter/play caller isn't necessarily a good "head" coach.

Kevin Sumlin sure was.
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Re: The Vast Majority of Successful Coaches DO NOT Call Pla

Postby Stallion » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:21 pm

OK a lot of Coordinators play more of a supervisory role in recruiting. Do you really want them out on Thursday and Friday Nite recruiting or working on the game plan. You do want them participating in the recruit evaluations though
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Postby mrydel » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:32 pm

Just reporting what I read. If quality assistants can be hired, my idiot dog can be head coach. But it sounds as if he shies from the limelight and that is not the typical ego of a head coach. I am putting my faith in Hart.
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Re: The Vast Majority of Successful Coaches DO NOT Call Pla

Postby tristatecoog » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:37 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
skurtn wrote:Funny that this article was found and posted. Some of my colleagues and I were talking about this as well.
Yet, it didn't really register to me (e.g. due to my stupidity), that a good recruiter/play caller isn't necessarily a good "head" coach.

Kevin Sumlin sure was.


Didn't Kingsbury and Holgorsen call plays for Sumlin at Houston?
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Re: The Vast Majority of Successful Coaches DO NOT Call Pla

Postby Rayburn » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:49 pm

What do we want, play callers or guys who will install offenses?

I'd like a coach that will bring an offense to town, not just call plays.
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Re: The Vast Majority of Successful Coaches DO NOT Call Pla

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:56 pm

tristatecoog wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:
skurtn wrote:Funny that this article was found and posted. Some of my colleagues and I were talking about this as well.
Yet, it didn't really register to me (e.g. due to my stupidity), that a good recruiter/play caller isn't necessarily a good "head" coach.

Kevin Sumlin sure was.


Didn't Kingsbury and Holgorsen call plays for Sumlin at Houston?

I was talking about him being an OC before being a head coach.
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