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by footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:53 pm
sbsmith wrote:footballdad wrote: This team sucks, these players suck, shut the program down, shut it down, we're a basketball school, we're an academic school, Grrrrrrr, you kids are hilarious.
Let me guess, you never played football in your life?
Yeah I played but God knows I wasn't as good as you. You did score 4 TDs in a single game at Polk High right Mr. Bundy?  With all your football wisdom I just don't get how you were so utterly wrong about this team. Dementia perhaps? Maybe you got this team confused with a better one from years ago.
Right, you never played, thanks for the clarification.
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by peruna81 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:56 pm
Uh, gee fellas, I was kinda glad that we were REMOTELY competitive in this game, especially in light of this season's scores in previous matches. Davis put us in a place to play for something other than the point spread. Hasn't happened too often this year.
I'll take that effort each Saturday, just not that outcome.
Now, back to the bashing of yours, ours, and each other...
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by footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:57 pm
Digetydog wrote:footballdad wrote:blackoutpony wrote:The amount of hate that you have for your sons school is pretty mind blowing. Why don't you just have him transfer if this is such an awful place? You seen to be enough of a helicopter dad to make it happen.
I think you've said the same thing 10 times now, followed by the usual name calling. Quite an old and tired argument. Relax young man. I don't hate anything. I voice my opinion on an opinion board and make observations. Stay on point and diffuse the anger.
When I was a student, we had this tall, white stiff who couldn't hit the anything with a shot from two feet. He was horrible. Much to everyone's surprise, John Shumate took over and "fixed" him. His last year, he was first team All-SWC. He ended up playing professionally in Europe. Is Davis ready? No. He has had 4 OC's in three years, he plays behind the worst OL in CFB history, and he got injured. But with talent around him and an offense that fits his skills, he could be just fine. If not, we'll move on. Heck, we made it to a bowl game with McDermitt (who was injured) at QB.
No way Digety, sbsmith says he 'knows' Davis sucks and always will, no matter the new coach, scheme, etc, etc. HE KNOWS dammit!!!!!!
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by sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:59 pm
footballdad wrote:Right, you never played, thanks for the clarification.
Blackout was right, reading comprehension isn't your forte. You didn't even explain how you were so wrong about this team even though you were a football legend which is supposed to make you an expert on these matters.
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by dirtysouthpony » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:01 pm
sbsmith wrote:dirtysouthpony wrote: Ummmm.. they ain't good!
What's your definition of "good"?
I like to go by the NCAA rankings of wins and loses, the Top 25. There is not one AAC team that even received a vote in the latest ESPN NCAA top 25 football poll. So that tells me that there are no really "good" teams in the AAC this year.
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by sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:06 pm
dirtysouthpony wrote: I like to go by the NCAA rankings of wins and loses, the Top 25. There is not one AAC team that even received a vote in the latest ESPN NCAA top 25 football poll. So that tells me that there are no really "good" teams in the AAC this year.
Oh if that's your criteria then I guess there are no really "good" teams in the AAC this year.
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by Big12Mustang » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:09 pm
sbsmith wrote:footballdad wrote:And where does your genius insight about Matt Davis come from exactly? Actually most everyone who knows June Jones knew the kid was gonna get stuck on the bench behind June's 2 hand picked superstars, Burcham & Cassel. If the new staff does bring in better competition, hallelujah, let the best man win. To talk smack because he lost a competition to Johnny Manziel is laughable. They already tried to move him from QB to other positions at A&M when it was obvious Manziel was their guy and he transferred to SMU to play QB. Stop trying to make yourself believe he's going to switch to WR or DB, ain't gonna happen. As for the rest of the season, we may not win a game, and he may not light it up in June's run & sh*t offense, but he'll certainly make plays, turn sacks into 1st downs, and at least give us a chance to look competitive.
I'll take that in a heartbeat. You just keep criticizing.
Doesn't take any genius insight to see what Matt Davis is, you just have to pay attention (something it seems you have trouble with). It was obvious to everyone but Davis that he was going to get stuck on the bench but he must have thought he was good enough to learn June's offense which shows a lack of self-awareness on his part. Not sure why you're bringing up Johnny Manziel because I certainly didn't. Davis couldn't win the job in JUCO versus some spare and he couldn't win the job here versus spares so it's not likely he's going to be the "best man" in the upcoming QB competition. Stop trying to make yourself believe he's going to be a superstar QB because it ain't gonna happen 
Why are you an SMU "fan" then? You seem to always have a negative outlook on everything. It is tiring
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by sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:11 pm
Big12Mustang wrote:Why are you an SMU "fan" then? You seem to always have a negative outlook on everything. It is tiring
Congrats to your Frogs on the win this weekend. How was the game?
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by dirtysouthpony » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:21 pm
Last year people had doubts sbout Trevon Boykin playing qb at TCU.
With the addition of Texas A&M transfer Matt Joeckel in the offseason, it seemed Boykin was headed to receiver again. But he secured the starting quarterback job in training camp. “For two years people have been telling him he can’t play quarterback and we’d never win,†TCU coach Gary Patterson said. “He’s like anybody else I know with fire in him. They’re going to try to prove people wrong.â€
I see this same fire in Matt Davis.
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by sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:28 pm
dirtysouthpony wrote:Last year people had doubts sbout Trevon Boykin playing qb at TCU.
With the addition of Texas A&M transfer Matt Joeckel in the offseason, it seemed Boykin was headed to receiver again. But he secured the starting quarterback job in training camp. “For two years people have been telling him he can’t play quarterback and we’d never win,†TCU coach Gary Patterson said. “He’s like anybody else I know with fire in him. They’re going to try to prove people wrong.â€
I see this same fire in Matt Davis.
OK so we have the fire now all we need is a Meacham/Cumbie facsimile and some legit offensive talent. And we need it before Davis runs out of eligibility. If all goes well we might have it by 2016.
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by footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:07 pm
sbsmith wrote:dirtysouthpony wrote:Last year people had doubts sbout Trevon Boykin playing qb at TCU.
With the addition of Texas A&M transfer Matt Joeckel in the offseason, it seemed Boykin was headed to receiver again. But he secured the starting quarterback job in training camp. “For two years people have been telling him he can’t play quarterback and we’d never win,†TCU coach Gary Patterson said. “He’s like anybody else I know with fire in him. They’re going to try to prove people wrong.â€
I see this same fire in Matt Davis.
OK so we have the fire now all we need is a Meacham/Cumbie facsimile and some legit offensive talent. And we need it before Davis runs out of eligibility. If all goes well we might have it by 2016.
Morris or Herman will do just fine with Davis and our existing offensive talent. Not in it's present form, but they will figure out a way to put together the best pieces to fit their scheme.
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by sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:24 pm
footballdad wrote:Morris or Herman will do just fine with Davis and our existing offensive talent. Not in it's present form, but they will figure out a way to put together the best pieces to fit their scheme.
More like Morris or Herman will bring in legit offensive talent (starting with QB) and do a hell of a lot better than "just fine", that is if they don't want to suffer the same fate as June Jones (who handpicked this offensive talent and then ran from it like they had the plague). Of course this is assuming either even wants the job because they will have many suitors.
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by Puckhead48E » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:37 pm
First...pretty much no one on this team who plays is showing, well, anything. Mediocre currently equals excellence right now. That sucks. That indicates we have issues at, well, pretty much every position. So Davis didn't epically suck at Tulsa...that equates to some amazing QB ratio based on the mediocre is excellence scale. He has shown poorly earlier against better competition. Does he have all the tangible skill-sets we desire? Possibly not. Is he the answer? Lord knows. Is he another option to possibly have us lose by less than double-digits this season? Yes. So let's all embrace our outstanding mediocrity and see what happens. If nothing else, the new staff will have more game footage to start their process of tweaking his game before next season.
Then again, I have little experience and I am often negative about this team and it's players (then again, I guess the promise of throwing an 0-fer up on the board with little chance of scoring more in the season than your average freshman guy at senior prom is a bit daunting). Emotion is nice, and the power of positive thinking is pretty effective, but one of the things I have learned in my time in the Navy is when you fail an evolution you have to honestly and openly and objectively study every aspect of that failure to prevent a repeat and become a better organization. Well, seems the administration never had that desire for introspective investigation post the ASU debacle, and now we are faced with a crap-storm of extraordinary proportions. Guess we didn't learn....hope we do this time.
And leave footballdad alone. He is still impressed by Vanderbilt and wishes he...I mean, wishes his kid had played there.
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by ponyfan37 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:46 pm
Tulsa may be bad, but no worse than UNT and look what happened there. Davis gives us our best chance to be competitive.
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by JasonB » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:19 pm
Guys, we are the worst team in the NCAA this year. Can we at least agree that on offense, Davis and KC actually show a little something that might be used next season?
Davis isn't going to be Boykin next year. That said: - He IS a natural leader (was the leader in A&M's recruiting class, and has been a leader with the team the moment he stepped foot on campus). - He is very athletic. - There aren't any SMU QBs who have EVER run for 180, completed a high percentage of his passes and thrown for 200. - Although there are limitations, he is better than Swoopes at UT and Ward in Houston.
Why don't we chill with the criticisms of one of the few players who has shown anything this season? I don't think Dad was saying he is the next coming of Ramon, but if we run a spread, he is probably the guy starting next year, and is probably good enough to start in front of a true freshman, at least until the frosh gets his feet on the ground.
I DO find it a little ironic that I think some of you guys criticized June for pushing Willis to another position when he was the only thing that performed decently on offense the year before, but yet now you are saying we should do the same thing to Davis when he is the only thing that has looked halfway decent this year.
And yes, I am aware that the high school stats between the two are different - willis threw fro 3K and ran for 1K his senior year, he was much more prolific through the air than Davis in high school. But I see Davis as a better athlete and just as strong an arm.
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