So it's official now?

[SMUstangs22]

Was this the last domino? Can we at least be done with the midseason blows for now?

[RyanSMU98]

How much does this effect us with recruiting in the coming years. First MK and now KF. Not a great message to send.

I think other coaches will try to use it against us, but the really question in both cases remains how much is on the school and how much is on the players? I went to classes with guys on the bball team back when we were much less "athlete friendly" than we supposedly are now and though they struggled the profs generally recognized the effort and they stayed eligible. If these guys don't go to class and don't take full advantage of ALEC, then there's not a whole hell of a lot more the school can do. Sorry, folks, we ain't gonna go the UNC route. And I for one don't believe that we should.

That said, if KF truly put in the classroom effort and some prof with a grudge fails him anyway to prove a point, then that is squarely on SMU and needs to be addressed ASAP.

[smusportspage]

Just curious, does anyone know the appeal process? Who does it go through etc.? I am assuming the provost and or dean?

[CoxMustangFan]

I give up on SMU. Bye.

[PonyTime]

Apparently 100+ are being let go from SMU this afternoon - hopefully the right ones...

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/park-cities/headlines/20150115-smu-begins-layoffs-of-about-100-staff-members.ece

[ponyinNC]

Can't wait to see how many ignorant statements grounded in fantasy we can pack into one thread.

ok, educate us then. because I see a pattern of SMU basketball players becoming ineligible - JMart, KF, and MK.

So either ALL of these guys are idiots and don't make ANY effort -- or much more likely, our school still does not GET IT -

And guys, you don't have to make the illogical leap to comapre us to UNC if we let 1 or 2 players slide. C'mon.

If Stanford, UConn, Duke, G'town can do it - we should be able to keep guys eligible as well. Stop defending your school for once, take off your SMU-colored glasses and realize that we have a SYSTEMIC issue here!

[PonyKai]

lol I never even said which statements were ignorant. You just made an assumption and took a massive leap.

[Puckhead48E]

Guys don't assume this is SMUs doing.

Why not? it's an academic issue....that solely reflects on SMU

How the hell does this automatically reflect on the school. Taking a dump in the toilet is easy and free...but you have to actually go to the toilet and pull your own pants down to do it. So is it the schools fault if they are given the tutors and the ALEC and the access beyond what anyone else on campus can reasonable assume to get, and they instead decide to crap it away by not using it? Absent some teacher screwing him over, blaming the school for this (or for Kennedy) is akin to blaming the cab company for not taking your keys an forcing you to get in their car that time you got a DWI. They get a free education for playing their sport, and are given assistance and added benefits to ensure the academic aspect is covered. Kid probably pissed because he calls his friends from AAU and summer tournaments in HS and hears how they don't have to attend classes and get "a head" from their tutors at their big state school and is pissed.

And he must have known this on Wednesday in Philly, because he looked like a 10 year old who knew he was about to get grounded the entire game.

[Lebanese4Life]

wow, this news sucks. I think Emelogu steps up

[Pony ^]

And don't forget Ulric Maligi is mysteriously "on leave"

[freqz]

Does the coaching staff get attendance reports for classes and the ALEC on these kids?

[Junior]

so, effectively 25% of our team didn't make grades? how does that happen?

[SMU Section F]

How the hell does this automatically reflect on the school.

I don't know enough about this specific situation to say for sure that it's SMU's fault or not. What I do know is that other schools with similar (or greater) academic standards than SMU field more competitive teams with fewer of these slip ups than SMU does. Maybe it's because we're trying to reach too far too fast, maybe it's because our administration isn't up to the task, or maybe we're just really unlucky. Regardless, something will have to change if SMU is ever going to have a perennially successful athletic program.

[ponyinNC]

How the hell does this automatically reflect on the school.

I don't know enough about this specific situation to say for sure that it's SMU's fault or not. What I do know is that other schools with similar (or greater) academic standards than SMU field more competitive teams with fewer of these slip ups than SMU does. Maybe it's because we're trying to reach too far too fast, maybe it's because our administration isn't up to the task, or maybe we're just really unlucky. Regardless, something will have to change if SMU is ever going to have a perennially successful athletic program.

Spot on post

[Puckhead48E]

Can't wait to see how many ignorant statements grounded in fantasy we can pack into one thread.

ok, educate us then. because I see a pattern of SMU basketball players becoming ineligible - JMart, KF, and MK.

So either ALL of these guys are idiots and don't make ANY effort -- or much more likely, our school still does not GET IT -

And guys, you don't have to make the illogical leap to comapre us to UNC if we let 1 or 2 players slide. C'mon.

If Stanford, UConn, Duke, G'town can do it - we should be able to keep guys eligible as well. Stop defending your school for once, take off your SMU-colored glasses and realize that we have a SYSTEMIC issue here!

Don't throw UCONN in there...they are a state school with all of those special exceptions for regulatory leniency given to them by the NCAA's. G'town definitely took care of their players....but the big man also hammered home academics and pushed degrees (you don't wonder why Iverson never got that Nike contract after leaving G'town without a degree....look at who was on Nike's board). Stanford and Duke? Really? You think any of those kids going there don't expect to have to at least go to a study session or attend the requisite minimums? You think any kid is going to ignore Coach K when he just has someone from the list of NBA alums call that kid and lay it down for them? If you are trying to make a case, try to be less lazy than the guys declared ineligible because they refused to even attend classes.