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Drop Jayhawks football?

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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby DanFreibergerForHeisman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:23 pm

That would open up a spot in the Big XII for us!
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby mr. pony » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:27 pm

DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:That would open up a spot in the Big XII for us!

Or NTSU.
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Postby PonySnob » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:14 pm

Guessing we have a fair share of faculty members who might ask the same thing with our university.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby DanFreibergerForHeisman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:18 pm

PonySnob wrote:Guessing we have a fair share of faculty members who might ask the same thing with our university.

Wouldn't be the first time...
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Postby mr. pony » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:23 pm

May start getting more traction.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby smitty329 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:51 pm

More scholarships for kids that aren't ready/shouldn't be attending college - who will go into occupations that don't require a 4 year degree or worse yet, never find a job and may end up being dependent on social welfare long term. Keep football, learn a trade.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby Monty_The_Mustang » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:46 pm

I would imagine that by 2030, a lot of schools start to consider dropping football - high school and college.
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Postby SMU Pom Mom » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:18 pm

Oh for heaven's sake. Kansas is not dropping football. It's just one law school professor on twitter.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby East Coast Mustang » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:34 pm

I think football as a whole is going to really decrease in popularity over the next 15-20 years. Not nearly as many kids playing these days as parents grow increasingly concerned about safety issues. With that will come decreases in quality of play and fan interest.

Fortunately Ford will be one of the nicest D1 lacrosse stadiums in the country in 2035.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby PonySnob » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:20 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:I think football as a whole is going to really decrease in popularity over the next 15-20 years. Not nearly as many kids playing these days as parents grow increasingly concerned about safety issues. With that will come decreases in quality of play and fan interest.

Fortunately Ford will be one of the nicest D1 lacrosse stadiums in the country in 2035.


If they put grass back in it, couldn’t it be a great soccer field? Thought I heard that when it went back to turf, that meant it could not hold an NCAA tournament event.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby PoconoPony » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:49 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:I think football as a whole is going to really decrease in popularity over the next 15-20 years. Not nearly as many kids playing these days as parents grow increasingly concerned about safety issues. With that will come decreases in quality of play and fan interest.

Fortunately Ford will be one of the nicest D1 lacrosse stadiums in the country in 2035.



We have traditional powerhouse Pennsylvania coal mining area high school football teams with just barely enough players to field a team. We also have several high schools petitioning the state governing authority to combine various high school teams in order to field a single team. Attendance is down and many high schools have pathetic very small bands as the kids have little interest in performing at football games. Times are changing.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby PoconoPony » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:58 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:I think football as a whole is going to really decrease in popularity over the next 15-20 years. Not nearly as many kids playing these days as parents grow increasingly concerned about safety issues. With that will come decreases in quality of play and fan interest.

Fortunately Ford will be one of the nicest D1 lacrosse stadiums in the country in 2035.


University of Denver made the decision years ago that football was too expensive and that they would place their emphasis on soccer, hockey and lacrosse. Now they are national powers in both men's and women's programs and still receive enhanced PR value for attracting and recruiting new students at
half the cost of running a football program. Because these sports are traditionally upper mid-west and east coast sports they are reaching new potential students far beyond their regional area.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby leopold » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:03 pm

Yeah. I'm at Boston U right now and the same applies - they dropped football in the late 90's and concentrated on Hockey, where they have 5 National Championships. It hasn't hurt them a bit.

I love football but the sport is getting it from all angles right now.

- CTE is absolutely a thing and the NFL covering it up for years has only made perception of it worse. It's by far the most dangerous in the American pantheon of sports.
- It has made almost no headway in terms of getting women involved, at least not when comparted to basketball, tennis, golf, Olympic sports, and even MMA. Truth is, all the growth nowadays is in women's sports and few women actually play the game.
- The SEC dominating college football is hurting it at the collegiate level. It's a 'Southern' sport, which, of course, means it's despised by other regions.
- IT'S A MASSIVE MONEY LOSER. There about 25-30 programs in the NCAA that actually make money - out of about what? 120 now? That means most schools lose money is some way, shape, or form. That doesn't bode well for the future.
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Re: Drop Jayhawks football?

Postby PoconoPony » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:18 pm

leopold wrote:Yeah. I'm at Boston U right now and the same applies - they dropped football in the late 90's and concentrated on Hockey, where they have 5 National Championships. It hasn't hurt them a bit.

I love football but the sport is getting it from all angles right now.

- CTE is absolutely a thing and the NFL covering it up for years has only made perception of it worse. It's by far the most dangerous in the American pantheon of sports.
- It has made almost no headway in terms of getting women involved, at least not when comparted to basketball, tennis, golf, Olympic sports, and even MMA. Truth is, all the growth nowadays is in women's sports and few women actually play the game.
- The SEC dominating college football is hurting it at the collegiate level. It's a 'Southern' sport, which, of course, means it's despised by other regions.
- IT'S A MASSIVE MONEY LOSER. There about 25-30 programs in the NCAA that actually make money - out of about what? 120 now? That means most schools lose money is some way, shape, or form. That doesn't bode well for the future.


Just saw a TV report that indicates that high school football participation is down 55,000 since 2008. Some of the reasons are injuries, CTE, other sports attracting kids and change of demographics wherein many immigrant families do not understand or have a background in football.

Personally, I have become bored with the sport to some extent because the spontaneity and creativity has been lost. Games at all levels are totally controlled by the offensive and defensive coordinators and players have become mere pawns. Kids are no longer allowed to call plays, make situational changes ....etc. As an old timer I had the total discretion to call all offensive plays staying within the game plan. I could get on the field immediate feed back from receivers and other team members and exploit immediately defensive players who were gassed, dinged or playing loose and go into a hurry up play as necessary. Today, in my opinion, kids are not really learning the game because they have essentially no input.
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