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Postby LonghornFan68 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:36 am

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Postby SMU_is_bowling » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:47 am

I truely hope he does not hurt himself furthur. But it would be nice to see #8 back in the backfield. Does anyone know much about UTEP's D???

And man is El Paso ever a tough place to play!! That field is pure crap!!!
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Postby ThadFilms » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:04 am

I wanted to respond to this earlier.... pesky work getting in the way...


This news has totally brightened my morning. It started pretty "crappily" as I walked in to find my desk covered in ants. (Damnit! There's another one!)

This news signifigantly improves my outlook on the game. I said before we had one chance in three... I don't know, but I definitely have a good feeling. In my mental sports book UTEP still is favored, but the spread just went on a diet.

All I have to say to UTEP is "achtung".
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Postby SMUtrojanFAN » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:24 am

mrydel wrote:The common mistake, and I make it as often as anyone, is the misreference to the situation as a "medical redshirt". A redshirt is burned with one play in a game. It can not be restored. A medical hardship is allowed within the guidelines I listed above. Two completly different animals that all too often are thought to be under the same rules.


Is there such a thing as a "Medical Redshirt"? I have only heard this term my whole life (and used it). Have I been wrong all along?
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Postby expony18 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:26 am

ThadFilms wrote:I wanted to respond to this earlier.... pesky work getting in the way...


This news has totally brightened my morning. It started pretty "crappily" as I walked in to find my desk covered in ants. (Damnit! There's another one!)

This news signifigantly improves my outlook on the game. I said before we had one chance in three... I don't know, but I definitely have a good feeling. In my mental sports book UTEP still is favored, but the spread just went on a diet.

All I have to say to UTEP is "achtung".

glad hes back too but i hope that he doesnt have to be the main reason we win this game.. i hope justin can control it and maybe gets some big plays from our secondary :shock: ....
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Postby 35straight » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:37 am

I like the fact that this kid wants to get back in the mix as soon as possible. It shows the mental toughness that is coming back to the team. Martin's want to get back on the field is just a small part of how bad these guys want to win. Now that we have a triple threat backfield. How bout the "BONE".
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Postby ThadFilms » Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:28 pm

SMUtrojanFAN wrote:
mrydel wrote:The common mistake, and I make it as often as anyone, is the misreference to the situation as a "medical redshirt". A redshirt is burned with one play in a game. It can not be restored. A medical hardship is allowed within the guidelines I listed above. Two completly different animals that all too often are thought to be under the same rules.


Is there such a thing as a "Medical Redshirt"? I have only heard this term my whole life (and used it). Have I been wrong all along?


A medical hardship is sometimes refered to as a medical redshirt.
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Postby PK » Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:04 pm

ThadFilms wrote:
SMUtrojanFAN wrote:
mrydel wrote:The common mistake, and I make it as often as anyone, is the misreference to the situation as a "medical redshirt". A redshirt is burned with one play in a game. It can not be restored. A medical hardship is allowed within the guidelines I listed above. Two completly different animals that all too often are thought to be under the same rules.


Is there such a thing as a "Medical Redshirt"? I have only heard this term my whole life (and used it). Have I been wrong all along?


A medical hardship is sometimes refered to as a medical redshirt.
As mrydel said, they are two completely different animals...but the end result is the same...an extra year of elgibility. So calling it a "medical redshirt" is sort of a true statement...in "fan speak."
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Postby mrydel » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:16 pm

SMUtrojanFAN wrote:
mrydel wrote:The common mistake, and I make it as often as anyone, is the misreference to the situation as a "medical redshirt". A redshirt is burned with one play in a game. It can not be restored. A medical hardship is allowed within the guidelines I listed above. Two completly different animals that all too often are thought to be under the same rules.


Is there such a thing as a "Medical Redshirt"? I have only heard this term my whole life (and used it). Have I been wrong all along?


The term medical redshirt is improper. I use it as do most people, but it should actually be called a medical hardship. Again, a redshirt is burned in one play, a medical hardship allows payng in 20% of the total scheduled games as long as the injury occurs in the 1st 1/2 of the season.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:22 pm

You can only apply and obtain a "MEDICAL REDSHIRT" after all your years of eligibility have been used.

If Martin is eligible for one he will have to apply for it at the end of this Senior (Redshirt) year.

Tony Eckert was not eligible for his and neither was Don Stansbury because they did not miss enough games prior to their senior year.

A primary example of someone getting a "MEDICAL REDSHIRT" is Jason White, OU HEISMAN winning QB.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:25 pm

And Flanigan who was out for the season on the first play of the first game.
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Postby expony18 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:48 pm

National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) regulations

Hardship Waivers vs. "Redshirt"
A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference or the Eligibility Committee for reasons of "hardship" (NCAA Bylaw 14.2.5). An additional season of competition, (within the allotted five years or ten semesters) may be allowed for a student-athlete who qualifies for a hardship waiver. In general such waivers are granted only on account of incapacitating illness or injuries which occur within the first half of a sports season in which the student-athlete has participated in a limited number of contests. The student-athlete is limited to no more than two (2) events or twenty (20) percent of the institution's completed events in the sport, (which ever is greater).
The term "redshirt" is typically used to identify an individual who has met the initial eligibility requirements identified earlier in this section, (see Freshmen Requirements), and has come to a mutual understanding with his/her sports coach that he/she will not compete during their first year at the institution. This student-athlete has four seasons of eligibility remaining and does not have to apply, or meet any specific requirements when this option is chosen.
These two terms, hardship waiver vs. "redshirt", have separate applications and should not be considered the same.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:52 pm

Yes, thanks for the official NCAA ruling because that is basically the same thing I said above, minus all that extra mumbo jumbo

They call sometimes call it a Medical Redshirt only because the player has been redshirted already.

Just like they pronouce players as "Redshirt Freshman", like J. Willis is.

It is a combined term. Like a fifth year senior is a Redshirt Senior.
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:30 am

In light of recent events concerning our quarterback, it's nice to have him back. I would think there will be a mix of him, Fitzgerald and Dorsey. Remeber, Fitzy's 7-yard TD run when he got to the corner? Pretty impressive.

Everybody is going to have rally around Slater and hope the backs can do the this. This is going to have to be a total team effort.
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Postby WildHorse » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:06 am

Did you really just say "Fitzy"?
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