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Rice #59, SMU #85Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower
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That poll is BS. We moved down after beating Tulsa. We were 84th before Houston, stayed 84th after Houston, and moved down after Tulsa. They must be smokin' something strong.
and an 0-11 duke as 89th out of 119 and ahead of marshall, tulane and utep. they must stop paying attention after about 30th.
Seriously, look at the source.
It's a website run by a bunch of guys who probably played HS football, but couldn't conjugate their way out of a standardized test.
Personally, I'd rate Duke about 134th out of 119.
According to SI here is C-USA:
#30 Houston #48 Tulsa #55 USM #59 ECU #68 SMU #69 Rice #78 UTEP #83 Marshall #89 Tulane #97 UAB #103 UCF #111 Memphis (I'm very displeased with SI. It says SMUt instead of SMU and they have Michigan State listed as SMU)
Their positions are not that far off from Sagarin's, which puts Rice 61 and SMU 88. It appears to be the SMU SOS that's pulling you downward:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm A 1L looks at 40...
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Sagarin is also dumb. Sir, shooting-star, sir.
Frosh 2005 (TEN YEARS AGO!?!) The original Heavy Metal.
How do you know? His ratings are strictly based on a mathematic formula and he doesn't pretend to rank teams otherwise. I think it provides an interesting yardstick. I have no real problem with SI's rankings either except Tulsa's rated slightly too high-in fact I believe all CUSA teams are rated slightly too high. All the top CUSA teams have lost some games to each other but Tulsa is at 7 wins SMU is at 6.
Sagarin Ratings:
54. UH 58. Tulsa 59. Southern Miss 60. ECU 61. Rice 88. SMU 92. Marshall 93. UTEP 110. Tulane 112. UAB 116. Central Florida 149. Memphis I actually believe that Sagarin's ratings are more realistic in showing you where SMU and CUSA is in relation to the rest of Colllege Football EXCEPT that as you get down toward the bottom Division 1AA teams start creeping in because they rolled up big scores against other Division 1AA schools. I wish he did an adjusted Division 1A ranking of only Division 1A schools. The difference between Rice and SMU is an issue but I don't think it is too unfair based upon the quality difference between the two schools schedule. SMU really hasn't proven this to be unfair because although we beat a much higher Tulsa we also lost to a lower rated UTEP and much much lower rated NTSU at 142. BTW in an adjusted Sagarin rating of Division 1A schools ONLY SMU would be at No. 81 which is right about on the money in my opinion.
Sagarin has two problems in my opinion. First, what he really thinks isn't his "sagarin rankings." The Sagarin rankings that are used don't factor in margin of victory, which he thinks you should do. He does provide his "PURE POINTS" numbers, which he thinks are more indicative. The other problem is beyond the top 50 or so, the ratings get completely out of whack due in no small part to one-loss and undefeated I-AA teams.
Other computer polls in the BCS: http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cfootball/ratings.htm http://www.cfrc.com/Ratings_2006/WK_13.htm http://www.andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf
and Army.
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