Cory Slater

[MrMustang1965]

If Justin plays against UTEP, we win...we're in a bowl.

If the entire team had shown up to play against UNT in Denton, we'd have been in a bowl.

[jtstang]

Maaaybe because Justin Willis is hands-down the best quarterback on the team and because Bennett actually wanted to make a bowl game last year? I think if Bennett played Slater more, you would be first in line to complain about it, and why sitting Willis at all during the last 5 games cost us a bowl game.

If Justin plays against UTEP, we win...we're in a bowl. Corey Slater was ATROCIOUS vs. UTEP, i'm not the first to point this out in the thread.

Of course, Willis played against NTSU, Tulane, and Rice. I can't recall the results of those games offhand, but if memory serves they provided the same measure of help to our bowl aspirations as the UTEP game.

[mavsrage311]

Maaaybe because Justin Willis is hands-down the best quarterback on the team and because Bennett actually wanted to make a bowl game last year? I think if Bennett played Slater more, you would be first in line to complain about it, and why sitting Willis at all during the last 5 games cost us a bowl game.

If Justin plays against UTEP, we win...we're in a bowl. Corey Slater was ATROCIOUS vs. UTEP, i'm not the first to point this out in the thread.

Of course, Willis played against NTSU, Tulane, and Rice. I can't recall the results of those games offhand, but if memory serves they provided the same measure of help to our bowl aspirations as the UTEP game.

If Bennett took the kid gloves off of Justin against NTSU, we would've won. That was not Justin's fault one bit. Bennett didn't trust him with anything but 3 yard outs for the majority of his passing plays, that game still pisses me off...

[jtstang]

If Bennett took the kid gloves off of Justin against NTSU, we would've won. That was not Justin's fault one bit. Bennett didn't trust him with anything but 3 yard outs for the majority of his passing plays, that game still pisses me off...

Well, I wasn't meaning to cast fault over those losses, including Rice, where the kid gloves must've been off since Bennett is still coach here. Only pointing out that it was not the fault of Slater vs. UTEP.

[PhirePhilBennett]

I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Please Corey Slater had his chance and blew it-he stunk up the place against UTEP. What did SMU have at halftime of his big break-I want to say 10 yards Total Offense. Great job Corey. He never performed at a high level at SMU including spring games. He's quite frankly is lucky SMU was desperate enough to give a third tier Division 1AA QB a chance. Corey Slater deserved to sit his [deleted] on the bench because he never came close to performing at the level of Justin Willis. He's another that has left SMU in a tough situation-but if Corey Slater was going to be the QB SMU wasn't going anywhere anyway.

Best post about the whole Corey Slater situation!

I don't consider handing him the game ball on Friday afternoon without practicing with the first team "giving him his chance."

This is another case of mismanagement by Bennett, regardless of how good Corey Slater was. Bennett didn't play him AT ALL in the final five games - why?

Maaaybe because Justin Willis is hands-down the best quarterback on the team and because Bennett actually wanted to make a bowl game last year? I think if Bennett played Slater more, you would be first in line to complain about it, and why sitting Willis at all during the last 5 games cost us a bowl game.

If Justin plays against UTEP, we win...we're in a bowl. Corey Slater was ATROCIOUS vs. UTEP, i'm not the first to point this out in the thread. Stallion said it best: simply put, Corey was very fortunate to get a scholarship to any D1 school, he certainly didn't earn any playing time on merit, and showed some decent flashes of potential here and there but in the end failed to even give us anything but sub-mediocre play. Do I wish he was staying? Yes, because there's not another proven backup behind him, but the backup options behind Willis now atleast have some decent wheels and aren't dead-ducks behind our line, so that gives me some level of hope, but either way you look at it...if Justin Willis misses significant time with OR withoug Corey, we're screwed period

Compare the first half stats for Corey vs the second half stats.

How good would Justin have been if he was told Friday morning to start?

1. Colt Brennan, Hawaii 406 559 5549 72.6 9.9 58 12 26 185.96
2. John Beck, BYU 289 417 3885 69.3 9.3 32 8 15 169.06
3. JaMarcus Russell, LSU 232 342 3129 67.8 9.1 28 8 15 167.03
4. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh 220 322 2871 68.3 8.9 25 9 22 163.25
5. Kevin Kolb, Houston 292 432 3809 67.6 8.8 30 4 33 162.72
6. Jared Zabransky, Boise St 191 288 2587 66.3 9.0 23 8 19 162.57
7. Troy Smith, Ohio St 203 311 2542 65.3 8.2 30 6 18 161.91
8. Colt McCoy, Texas 217 318 2570 68.2 8.1 29 7 14 161.82
9. Brian Brohm, Louisville 199 313 3049 63.6 9.7 16 5 16 159.08
10. Justin Willis, SMU 182 270 2047 67.4 7.6 26 6 28 158.4

7.6 yards per attempt, that is. 2047 yards passing, that is - total.

His passers rating is an anomaly. Don't fool yourself into thinking he is sliced bread.

Of course he is better than Corey. I never said he wasn't. His maturity is certainly questionable - and THAT is what caused him to miss the UTEP game.

I can see it now at your household "...but Johnney looked at me funny daddy, that's why I beat the crap out of him..."

"You're right son. Johnney is at fault here, not you. You go ahead and play."

[Junior]

Maaaybe because Justin Willis is hands-down the best quarterback on the team and because Bennett actually wanted to make a bowl game last year? I think if Bennett played Slater more, you would be first in line to complain about it, and why sitting Willis at all during the last 5 games cost us a bowl game.

If Justin plays against UTEP, we win...we're in a bowl. Corey Slater was ATROCIOUS vs. UTEP, i'm not the first to point this out in the thread.

Of course, Willis played against NTSU, Tulane, and Rice. I can't recall the results of those games offhand, but if memory serves they provided the same measure of help to our bowl aspirations as the UTEP game.

Um, didn't we beat Tulane? I'd say that helped our chances more than a loss would have.

[perunapower]

Compare the first half stats for Corey vs the second half stats.

How good would Justin have been if he was told Friday morning to start?

1. Colt Brennan, Hawaii 406 559 5549 72.6 9.9 58 12 26 185.96
2. John Beck, BYU 289 417 3885 69.3 9.3 32 8 15 169.06
3. JaMarcus Russell, LSU 232 342 3129 67.8 9.1 28 8 15 167.03
4. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh 220 322 2871 68.3 8.9 25 9 22 163.25
5. Kevin Kolb, Houston 292 432 3809 67.6 8.8 30 4 33 162.72
6. Jared Zabransky, Boise St 191 288 2587 66.3 9.0 23 8 19 162.57
7. Troy Smith, Ohio St 203 311 2542 65.3 8.2 30 6 18 161.91
8. Colt McCoy, Texas 217 318 2570 68.2 8.1 29 7 14 161.82
9. Brian Brohm, Louisville 199 313 3049 63.6 9.7 16 5 16 159.08
10. Justin Willis, SMU 182 270 2047 67.4 7.6 26 6 28 158.4

7.6 yards per attempt, that is. 2047 yards passing, that is - total.

His passers rating is an anomaly. Don't fool yourself into thinking he is sliced bread.

Of course he is better than Corey. I never said he wasn't. His maturity is certainly questionable - and THAT is what caused him to miss the UTEP game.

I can see it now at your household "...but Johnney looked at me funny daddy, that's why I beat the crap out of him..."

"You're right son. Johnney is at fault here, not you. You go ahead and play."

An anomaly? Were the other stats anomalies too? The TDs, the low number of INTs, the completion percentage? I'm going to guess no. Realistically, if we had played a schedule comparable to that of a BCS team, then no, he probably wouldn't have had the same level of success that he did.

Seriously what do you expect of a 19-20 year old guy? Did you expect him to invite his alleged stalker over and discuss how he was making him feel uncomfortable and it frustrated him? Did they discuss this over tea and cookies or coffee and a cake that Justin had just baked? Please, it was a rash incorrect decision, but I think we're all guilty of making stupid, rash decisions at least once in our lives. So give the kid a break.

[southerncomfort]

Justin Willis is really going to have to step up his leadership role and take full responsibility for his actions. He did a decent job fixing things with Jamil and gaining back respect from that situation. It is truly in his best interest to act as a responsible adult. He's clearly got alot of responsibility on his hands as it is but he's got to remember that his actions speak very loud and he will not gain respect from his teammates, fellow students and the school if he acts anything less than he already is...

[PhirePhilBennett]

Compare the first half stats for Corey vs the second half stats.

How good would Justin have been if he was told Friday morning to start?

1. Colt Brennan, Hawaii 406 559 5549 72.6 9.9 58 12 26 185.96
2. John Beck, BYU 289 417 3885 69.3 9.3 32 8 15 169.06
3. JaMarcus Russell, LSU 232 342 3129 67.8 9.1 28 8 15 167.03
4. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh 220 322 2871 68.3 8.9 25 9 22 163.25
5. Kevin Kolb, Houston 292 432 3809 67.6 8.8 30 4 33 162.72
6. Jared Zabransky, Boise St 191 288 2587 66.3 9.0 23 8 19 162.57
7. Troy Smith, Ohio St 203 311 2542 65.3 8.2 30 6 18 161.91
8. Colt McCoy, Texas 217 318 2570 68.2 8.1 29 7 14 161.82
9. Brian Brohm, Louisville 199 313 3049 63.6 9.7 16 5 16 159.08
10. Justin Willis, SMU 182 270 2047 67.4 7.6 26 6 28 158.4

7.6 yards per attempt, that is. 2047 yards passing, that is - total.

His passers rating is an anomaly. Don't fool yourself into thinking he is sliced bread.

Of course he is better than Corey. I never said he wasn't. His maturity is certainly questionable - and THAT is what caused him to miss the UTEP game.

I can see it now at your household "...but Johnney looked at me funny daddy, that's why I beat the crap out of him..."

"You're right son. Johnney is at fault here, not you. You go ahead and play."

An anomaly? Were the other stats anomalies too? The TDs, the low number of INTs, the completion percentage? I'm going to guess no. Realistically, if we had played a schedule comparable to that of a BCS team, then no, he probably wouldn't have had the same level of success that he did.

Seriously what do you expect of a 19-20 year old guy? Did you expect him to invite his alleged stalker over and discuss how he was making him feel uncomfortable and it frustrated him? Did they discuss this over tea and cookies or coffee and a cake that Justin had just baked? Please, it was a rash incorrect decision, but I think we're all guilty of making stupid, rash decisions at least once in our lives. So give the kid a break.

I am not on his [deleted], so no break is needed. The fact is that when you have a 19 year old starting for your team, he is going to be immature, which necessitates using your backup qb if for nothing else than to spell the starter for a few series during each game...to coach him...to get him to concentrate, etc.

The FACT is, despite your rhetoric, that his immaturity is what caused his suspension, REGARDLESS of the underlying reasons or justifications for his outbursts. With an IMMATURE QB, he needs to be better MANAGED.

PB is not a good manager (see all other posts for good examples).

There are 20 QBs rated below JUSTIN that I would have EASILY taken over him last year - BRADY QUINN, GRAHAM HARRELL, CHASE DANIEL, JEFF BALLARD to name a few.

His RATING is an anomaly...he had a very high TD to INT ratio...7 yards per attempts SUCKS, buddy.

He AIN'T sliced bread.

Oh, where is Chris Phillips now? Another mismanaged QB gone astray

[southerncomfort]

C. Phil managed to graduate and is attempting a future in the music/rap industry with his group Gridiron Gangstaz managed under Gridiron Entertainment...wish him luck, he might need it!

[PhirePhilBennett]

C. Phil managed to graduate and is attempting a future in the music/rap industry with his group Gridiron Gangstaz managed under Gridiron Entertainment...wish him luck, he might need it!

Good luck.

[perunapower]

Apparently capitalizing all your letters in particular words will force me to understand your point of view, or at least that seemed to be your intent.

I never said 7.6 yards per pass was awesome, nor did I ever say that he could or could not hold his own against a higher caliber QB. He certainly didn't have a BCS caliber OL to block for him like Brady Quinn, Graham Harrell, or the rest of your almighty crew, so the comparison is meaningless.

Shouldn't the entire team be a network of accountability and brotherhood? Not just one guy should be the only pillar of maturity that he has. This isn't similar to a Bledsoe-Romo relationship where Slater is the seasoned veteran helping out the rookie Willis.

His immaturity is what caused his suspension, no doubt. But to lambaste him for a decision that he has openly admitted was rash and incorrect is irresponsible and unnecessary. He screwed up. Period. It doesn't matter one bit who the coach is. The coach cannot possibly "manage," or babysit I think is more what you are getting at, the daily lives of 120 young adults. You have to learn from bad decisions and become a more mature person through those experiences, not be held on a leash by some overbearing football coach or have your hand held to do anything and everything under the sun because you might possibly make a mistake.

By the way, 7.6 yards per catch ranks him as tied with Chad Henne of Michigan in 37th place. Your beloved Brady Quinn was a 7.3, Graham Harrell was a 7.4, Chase Daniel was a whoppin' 7.8, and Jeff Ballard was also a 7.8. I'd say 7.6 is pretty decent. So I suppose they aren't sliced bread either, huh? Or is 7.7 is cutoff for sliced bread and we're stuck with a whole loaf?

[expony18]

Maybe we can get ERIC JOHNSON back...

Anyone have a list of defection QBs under Bennett?

Eric Johnson
Corey Slater


that 3A Golf guy -
Richard Bartel (signed with Cowboys)
That ENNIS QB converted to TE, signed by Cavan late
Invited Walk-on that transferred to Tech

David Page
Kelen Luker


who else?

ennis--tate wallis (scholarship), mesquite--mark hodges (scholarship) ,austin westlake (walk-on)--duke hasson, Crandle--Paul Teinert (Walk-on) (quit after on year and was put on a track scholarship, transfered to CAL and competed in the decathalon), Midland--Ryan ROwland (sledge's teammate transfered to TT).... Eric Johnson.... i might be missing one or two

*edit*
BL-- CPHil... but he was really a QB/TE/Rapper

[PonyKai]

Maybe we can get ERIC JOHNSON back...

Anyone have a list of defection QBs under Bennett?

Eric Johnson
Corey Slater


that 3A Golf guy -
Richard Bartel (signed with Cowboys)
That ENNIS QB converted to TE, signed by Cavan late
Invited Walk-on that transferred to Tech

David Page
Kelen Luker


who else?

ennis--tate wallis (scholarship), mesquite--mark hodges (scholarship) ,austin westlake (walk-on)--duke hasson, Crandle--Paul Teinert (Walk-on) (quit after on year and was put on a track scholarship, transfered to CAL and competed in the decathalon), Midland--Ryan ROwland (sledge's teammate transfered to TT).... Eric Johnson.... i might be missing one or two

Didn't Duke play all four years for SMU as a QB and place holder and host running with the Stangs? Where did he defect to?

[southerncomfort]

Yes he stuck it out all four years with the team...Duke graduated recently and is headed for med school in January.