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Postby Stallion » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:12 pm

I thought the official got it right all the way around-and Phil should have known that too after an explanation. On that play he dug his own grave as I'm sure WE all stated to every one around us when UTEP converted the onsides kick. Anyone? Everyone?
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Postby Treadway21 » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:12 pm

RGV great mids think alike - you posted yours while I was writing mine- weird.
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Postby Statler » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:18 pm

Supposedly PB was arguing that they still had 2 seconds on the clock and the ref should not have let it run down. Thus the blow up and the reset is history as the propellar is starting to show as the Good Ship Mustang slips coldly in to the North Atlantic.

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Postby perunapower » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:19 pm

The XtC wrote:
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mr. pony wrote:What happened at the end of the first half? The penalty?


UTEP got an offsides call at the end of the half. We accepted the penalty and PB thought (as well as I thought too) that we should get an extra down because he didn't think a half could end on a defensive penalty. I seem to remember that in other football games (i.e. Cowboys vs. Redskins last year, I don't know if that directly correlates to college football too). But regardless, in a fit of rage he blew up at the referee and got an unsportsmanlike penalty.

Maybe someone with more football knowledge than me can explain why we didn't get an extra play to work with at the end of the half.


We didnt get another play because we declined the penalty. We could decline the penalty and take the result of the play (12 yard line, approximately) or accept the penalty and get another play, back at the 40. You only get another play if you accept the penalty. Declining the penalty allowed the clock to run out and the half to end.


Are you sure we declined? I was almost certain we accepted.

Edit: Just found the play-by-play on smumustangs.com. We declined the offsides. My mistake.
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Postby RGV Pony » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:19 pm

Anyone else think Coach Doh's assistants are told by Coach Doh that in a similar situation, their job is to save him from himself and shepherd him away from the official, preventing a game-ruining T?
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Postby Pony94 » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:43 pm

Not to be overly critical, but Sledge should have not fought for extra yardage which caused the time to run out. He should have known to go down immediately; we had a timeout and would have had enough time for a field goal, but by fighting for two extra yards he wasted those 4 seconds. Not good clock awareness.


I keep seeing mistakes laid at the foot of the players (Treadway21, I am not implying that is your point), however, at some point teaching of awareness is the coaches responsibility. A "HEADS UP" ball player is guided by a good coach. I dont see that any of your players are what I would consider a "HEADS UP" player. How many of us played a sport growing up where we had situational practices, for instance, 1st and third with two outs, or 15 seconds on the clock, rebound comes to you.

This is just another instance of poor coaching.
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Postby docabel » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:51 pm

Pony94 you are exactly right. The coaches should have been drilling that into the players heads right before the play was called... they obviously set up the play (hard count and if they jump offsides, go deep)... but no-one told them to be sure and get down in enough time to call timeout.
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Postby mavsrage311 » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:33 am

It wasn't good awarness by Sledge, in an otherwise great game for him. He's a senior, he should've been aware of the clock and the situation and either gone down, or run out of bounds. Unlike the Cowboys game a week or two ago, the refs got it right, there shouldn't have been any time left. Phil just threw gas into the fire by getting the penalty
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