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Postby Mustangunner » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:27 pm

If Paul Johnson comes here we have to endure watching the horrible option offense all season instead of once a year when we played rice. Rice even figured out it had to change its model. Let's not revert back to that. Willis would be an awful option quarterback plus he would get injured probably by game 3. But for all you PFers that want Rhodes to play he would become the starting QB if that offense rolls in the door.
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Postby davidsmu94 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 pm

and you think He'd run the offense exactly like he runs it at Navy because??
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Re: SMU the next Rice??

Postby bigdaddy08091 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:42 pm

Mustangunner wrote:If Paul Johnson comes here we have to endure watching the horrible option offense all season instead of once a year when we played rice. Rice even figured out it had to change its model. Let's not revert back to that. Willis would be an awful option quarterback plus he would get injured probably by game 3. But for all you PFers that want Rhodes to play he would become the starting QB if that offense rolls in the door.


What are you smoking? JWill has been our leading rusher two years in a row, minus the sack yards and while playing hurt. You must be referring to all the other RB's when you talk about injuries. Did you go to any games? Did you see how much punishment the kid took and just kept on ticking. TCU Damn near killed him. The option would work fine here if we had some OL that could run block, we dont. Rhodes would play the flanker position because he is terribly fast, but he was a thrower in HS also. Rhodes couldn't beat out JWill even if you brought in the old ball coach, but his time is coming to be a star. But if yall want Rhodes to play, help him learn the playbook. PJ's would be more complicated than Rustys.
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Postby BrianTinBigD » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:48 pm

I am thinking that it has a lot to do with the fact that everyone looks at the fact that his team is an option team today and doesn't have anyone that is a decent passing QB and a receiver.
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Postby Mustangunner » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:03 pm

He couldn't take that punishment every game it won't work. Quit living in La La Land BigDaddy he would not be an option quarterback and he would leave SMU if it becomes that I guarantee it. It's different to be the leading rusher when your a spread option quarterback he does not take the hits day in day out like Eric Crouch took at the line. Most of his yards are taking off while all the defenders are spread out. He picks up 5, 10, 20 yards on a carry but isn't running through the trenches full of guys knowing that is where he is going because we run a spread. He picks up good yards because they don't know if he is going to pass or run. But if you take the pass away they will stack up the box and kill him. He would get injured. I've seen every game he has played.
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Postby davidsmu94 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:07 pm

[quote="Mustangunner"]He couldn't take that punishment every game it won't work. Quit living in La La Land BigDaddy he would not be an option quarterback and he would leave SMU if it becomes that I guarantee it. It's different to be the leading rusher when your a spread option quarterback he does not take the hits day in day out like Eric Crouch took at the line. Most of his yards are taking off while all the defenders are spread out. He picks up 5, 10, 20 yards on a carry but isn't running through the trenches full of guys knowing that is where he is going because we run a spread. He picks up good yards because they don't know if he is going to pass or run. But if you take the pass away they will stack up the box and kill him. He would get injured. I've seen every game he has played.[/quote

and you think He'd run the offense exactly like he runs it at Navy because??
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Postby davidsmu94 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:07 pm

[quote="Mustangunner"]He couldn't take that punishment every game it won't work. Quit living in La La Land BigDaddy he would not be an option quarterback and he would leave SMU if it becomes that I guarantee it. It's different to be the leading rusher when your a spread option quarterback he does not take the hits day in day out like Eric Crouch took at the line. Most of his yards are taking off while all the defenders are spread out. He picks up 5, 10, 20 yards on a carry but isn't running through the trenches full of guys knowing that is where he is going because we run a spread. He picks up good yards because they don't know if he is going to pass or run. But if you take the pass away they will stack up the box and kill him. He would get injured. I've seen every game he has played.[/quote

and you think He'd run the offense exactly like he runs it at Navy because??
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Postby Mustangunner » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:09 pm

Why wouldn't he most coaches bring the same offense that works for them where the go. Look at spurrier do u think he would just switch to the option or stay with throwing the ball down field?
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Postby davidsmu94 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:12 pm

Mustangunner wrote:Why wouldn't he most coaches bring the same offense that works for them where the go. Look at spurrier do u think he would just switch to the option or stay with throwing the ball down field?
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Kinda like Bennent, He started with the Multiple formation, then brought in the spread.. Or how about McCartney at Colorado, he switched form the Veer to the Spread...Barry Switzer brought the Wishbone to the Cowboys,
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Postby papawasamustang » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:19 pm

Had a family member that started for Rice 3 years under Ken Hatfield.
They led the country our close to it several years in a row in rushing.
However, losing record & you could pretty much close the door if they feel behind early because they couldn't throw the ball.

When I think of Johnson it reminds me of Hatfield.
I know that not fair to compare but that all we do is compare this player to that player & this coach to that coach.

Just being close to that situation I don't want to see anything similiar again, especially @ SMU.
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Postby Mustangunner » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:20 pm

Good Argument....Bennet was a great offensive mind wasn't he.....
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Postby BrianTinBigD » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:20 pm

Troy Aikman made Switzer drop the option at OU. Once he got hurt though, he had to go back to the option since he didn't have a QB that could throw the ball.
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Postby JesuitPony » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:53 pm

I thought I read on this board that Johnson had a pretty effective passing game at Hawaii.
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Postby davidsmu94 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:03 pm

Mustangunner wrote:Good Argument....Bennet was a great offensive mind wasn't he.....


Yeah it is...If you think this guy is going to come out of the blue and run the ball 50 times a game with this personnel, you a damn fool, not the coach
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