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by bigdaddy08091 » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:28 pm
J.T.supporta wrote:bigdaddy08091 wrote:TheBestAvailable wrote:bigdaddy08091 wrote:beamout2000 wrote:He can recruit too. I think Coker would be a good pick for you guys. Miami has had off the field issues no matter who their coach has been. I am not sure how much of that you can put directly on Coker although yes I do understand that the buck stops with the HC.
I asked earlier that we stop posting coaches past records at other schools. This is SMU. I am asking now that we stop posting coaches recruiting histories as well. This is SMU. A coach has not coached until he coaches at SMU. A coach has not recruited until he recruits at SMU. Stop comparing other schools to us. We are far better but distinguised in what we do and how we operate.
Big daddy are u really this ignorant??? Anytime you hire someone, whether it be coaches or paper salesmen you look at their past results. You cant be that stupid. No one is comparing the candidates past school to SMU. We want a coach who has a track record of success and the way coaches are graded is their win/loss record at other universities. Deal with it. Note: Ponyfans can we start a fake board for Bigdaddy to go and post rediculous things while we stay here.
Yes you are right. You do look at their past results in reference to what they can bring to your organization/situation. Wins and loses has nothing to do with it here. That works well with the BCS schools but not us. Track records has nothing to do with it here. We have no track record. If that is the case App. State would have never hired Jerry Moore, Boise State would not have the coach they have and we could go on an on. Go to the Tennis board, oibviously that is what you played an understand. You are messing with the Bigdaddy, keeping it real.
Orsini had a track record...thats why he came here i thought...
C'mon JT his track record fit us just great. UCF and where else? He is a nobody in regards to the BCS, else he would be there in the BCS? He is perfect for SMU. Plus Turner and everybody else in the admin knew him from his Cowboys days. C'mon JT?
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by ponydawg » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:30 pm
BRStang wrote:I'm sure the whole thing about driving a lamborghini into a ditch had nothing to do with it. I'm sure the melee with FIU also had nothing to do with it. I'm sure the multiple felony charges of his players also had nothing to do with it.
Just telling you what I know. I am sure those would/did/could have played a big factor in a Rice hire, but they couldn't even get to that part, he wanted more money than they could offer.
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by SMUer » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:31 pm
Orsini is a nobody in regards to the BCS...unless you count his time at GT, who PJ thinks is a somebody in the BCS
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by SMU Football Blog » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:32 pm
ponydawg wrote:BRStang wrote:I'm sure the whole thing about driving a lamborghini into a ditch had nothing to do with it. I'm sure the melee with FIU also had nothing to do with it. I'm sure the multiple felony charges of his players also had nothing to do with it.
Just telling you what I know. I am sure those would/did/could have played a big factor in a Rice hire, but they couldn't even get to that part, he wanted more money than they could offer.
Don't forget the shootings and player's death.
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by Cadillac » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:34 pm
SMU Football Blog wrote: Don't forget the shootings and player's death.
This is a good point. I certainly don't want a coach that shoots and/or kills his own players.
I mean, unless it was done to motivate the survivors or something. Then maybe...
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by lwjr » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:36 pm
Billy Joe wrote:Is this the same Larry Coker that won a national championship at Miami? That is a wow to me. When was the last time SMU had a coach that won a national title? There are a lot of coaches coaching today that are great coaches that have never won a national title. I would take him in a heart beat.
i think this would be a bad hire. Yes he won a National Championship at Miami with someone else's players and went to the National Championship game the following year. They were upset by Ohio State. Good for Larry. If you look at the records of the Hurricans the following seasons It gets worse and the blow out loses start to build up in the last couple of years during his HC tenure.
2001 12-0 Natinal champs
2002 12-1 Lost in championship game to Ohio State
2003 11-2 went to Orange Bowl beat Florida St.
2004 9-3 wom Peach Bowl
2005 9-3 Lost to LSU 10-3 in Peach bowl. Post game fight.
2006 6-6 Coker is fired after at end of season
There is a pattern and it is not a good one. I have not seen people beating his door down to hire him as head coach since he left Miami. He could not even get hired at RICE !!!!!! Enough said. NEXT
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by J.T.supporta » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:37 pm
lwjr wrote:Billy Joe wrote:Is this the same Larry Coker that won a national championship at Miami? That is a wow to me. When was the last time SMU had a coach that won a national title? There are a lot of coaches coaching today that are great coaches that have never won a national title. I would take him in a heart beat.
i think this would be a bad hire. Yes he won a National Championship at Miami with someone else's players and went to the National Championship game the following year. They were upset by Ohio State. Good for Larry. If you look at the records of the Hurricans the following seasons It gets worse and the blow out loses start to build up in the last couple of years during his HC tenure. 2001 12-0 Natinal champs 2002 12-1 Lost in championship game to Ohio State 2003 11-2 went to Orange Bowl beat Florida St. 2004 9-3 wom Peach Bowl 2005 9-3 Lost to LSU 10-3 in Peach bowl. Post game fight. 2006 6-6 Coker is fired after at end of season There is a pattern and it is not a good one. I have not seen people beating his door down to hire him as head coach since he left Miami. He could not even get hired at RICE !!!!!! Enough said. NEXT
i guess you dont read well either, it was said he wanted more money than RICE offered...so rice went the cheap route...
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by huskerpony » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:37 pm
SMU Football Blog wrote:Don't forget the shootings and player's death.
True. UM had a really rough year with off the field stuff. I always kind of thought he was pushed out just to kind of clear the air down there after the bad season--on and off the field. They obviously didn't want wholesale change--or they wouldn't have hired the new HC from the current staff--so someone at Miami at least thought the program he put in place was worth keeping to some extent.
Coker wouldn't be my first choice, but we could certainly do worse.
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by lwjr » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:38 pm
J.T.supporta wrote:lwjr wrote:Billy Joe wrote:Is this the same Larry Coker that won a national championship at Miami? That is a wow to me. When was the last time SMU had a coach that won a national title? There are a lot of coaches coaching today that are great coaches that have never won a national title. I would take him in a heart beat.
i think this would be a bad hire. Yes he won a National Championship at Miami with someone else's players and went to the National Championship game the following year. They were upset by Ohio State. Good for Larry. If you look at the records of the Hurricans the following seasons It gets worse and the blow out loses start to build up in the last couple of years during his HC tenure. 2001 12-0 Natinal champs 2002 12-1 Lost in championship game to Ohio State 2003 11-2 went to Orange Bowl beat Florida St. 2004 9-3 wom Peach Bowl 2005 9-3 Lost to LSU 10-3 in Peach bowl. Post game fight. 2006 6-6 Coker is fired after at end of season There is a pattern and it is not a good one. I have not seen people beating his door down to hire him as head coach since he left Miami. He could not even get hired at RICE !!!!!! Enough said. NEXT
i guess you dont read well either, it was said he wanted more money than RICE offered...so rice went the cheap route...
The rice job was not my point.
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by Insane_Pony_Posse » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:39 pm
someone may have already asked this but can anyone provide a URL source that Coker interviewed for the SMU job?
C-ya @ Milos!
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by J.T.supporta » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:40 pm
lwjr wrote:J.T.supporta wrote:lwjr wrote:Billy Joe wrote:Is this the same Larry Coker that won a national championship at Miami? That is a wow to me. When was the last time SMU had a coach that won a national title? There are a lot of coaches coaching today that are great coaches that have never won a national title. I would take him in a heart beat.
i think this would be a bad hire. Yes he won a National Championship at Miami with someone else's players and went to the National Championship game the following year. They were upset by Ohio State. Good for Larry. If you look at the records of the Hurricans the following seasons It gets worse and the blow out loses start to build up in the last couple of years during his HC tenure. 2001 12-0 Natinal champs 2002 12-1 Lost in championship game to Ohio State 2003 11-2 went to Orange Bowl beat Florida St. 2004 9-3 wom Peach Bowl 2005 9-3 Lost to LSU 10-3 in Peach bowl. Post game fight. 2006 6-6 Coker is fired after at end of season There is a pattern and it is not a good one. I have not seen people beating his door down to hire him as head coach since he left Miami. He could not even get hired at RICE !!!!!! Enough said. NEXT
i guess you dont read well either, it was said he wanted more money than RICE offered...so rice went the cheap route...
The rice job was not my point.
then why bring it up...
you should have just left it by saying what other ignorant football fans on this board have said, he took the keys to the car and drive it off a cliff
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by J.T.supporta » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:40 pm
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:someone may have already asked this but can anyone provide a URL source that Coker interviewed for the SMU job?
no link...aired on ESPN2 on College Football Live at 1:30 CST will come on again at 5 i think
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by SMUer » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:41 pm
no url...if you don't believe TV then ignore the entire thread...ESPN2 5pm CST is a re-airing of CFB Live
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by lwjr » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:42 pm
J.T.supporta wrote:lwjr wrote:J.T.supporta wrote:lwjr wrote:Billy Joe wrote:Is this the same Larry Coker that won a national championship at Miami? That is a wow to me. When was the last time SMU had a coach that won a national title? There are a lot of coaches coaching today that are great coaches that have never won a national title. I would take him in a heart beat.
i think this would be a bad hire. Yes he won a National Championship at Miami with someone else's players and went to the National Championship game the following year. They were upset by Ohio State. Good for Larry. If you look at the records of the Hurricans the following seasons It gets worse and the blow out loses start to build up in the last couple of years during his HC tenure. 2001 12-0 Natinal champs 2002 12-1 Lost in championship game to Ohio State 2003 11-2 went to Orange Bowl beat Florida St. 2004 9-3 wom Peach Bowl 2005 9-3 Lost to LSU 10-3 in Peach bowl. Post game fight. 2006 6-6 Coker is fired after at end of season There is a pattern and it is not a good one. I have not seen people beating his door down to hire him as head coach since he left Miami. He could not even get hired at RICE !!!!!! Enough said. NEXT
i guess you dont read well either, it was said he wanted more money than RICE offered...so rice went the cheap route...
The rice job was not my point.
then why bring it up... you should have just left it by saying what other ignorant football fans on this board have said, he took the keys to the car and drive it off a cliff
I take back the Rice comment.
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by SMU Football Blog » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:42 pm
huskerpony wrote:SMU Football Blog wrote:Don't forget the shootings and player's death.
True. UM had a really rough year with off the field stuff. I always kind of thought he was pushed out just to kind of clear the air down there after the bad season--on and off the field. They obviously didn't want wholesale change--or they wouldn't have hired the new HC from the current staff--so someone at Miami at least thought the program he put in place was worth keeping to some extent. Coker wouldn't be my first choice, but we could certainly do worse.
During coker's time as head coach, four players at Miami died. None were by natural causes. Two car accidents, one shooting and one "bludgeoning."
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