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Postby chiphilton » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:33 pm

Nope, nary a TE in this offense.
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Postby OC Mustang » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:51 pm

Stallion wrote:the Run and Shoot simply does not employ a TE. Tom Rossley? June Jones? Mouse Davis? John Jenkins? Jack Pardee? They don't use TEs. Never have. June Jones is strictly a Run and Shoot Coach. Vincent Chase's No. 1 trait as a highly recruited TE was his blocking ability. He has never caught a lot of passes either in High School or College. Note he's always been used even as a freshman as an extra blocking TE. He has the frame and athleticism to play OT in the NFL and I have little doubt that is where he will play next year. Many scouts consider him a better OT prospect anyway. He doesn't have the set of skills to be used as a Receiver in the Run and Shoot.

Now the Patrick Fleming kid was a tweener TE all along. He could move to outside receiver. The 2 inside receivers are generally between 5-9 and 5-11 and can turn on a dime. Vincent Chase is too big to play inside receiver and two slow to play Outside Receiver. He will be a OT-and probably a very good one. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets drafted by the NFL as an OT. I thought he would likely get a shot as an OT in the NFL even if he had remained as a TE his entire career. The NFL routinely looks for TEs with big frames to make the switch to OT in the NFL because they look for kids with quick feet.


There can be TE sets, Stallion. Admittedly, the inside receivers were usually slotbacks (converted running backs) in the original Run & Shoot. Jason Wolf and Mike Bowen fit that role. However, neither Hawaii, Houston, nor Leach's version of it at Texas Tech skimps on the inside role. One can line up a TE in the slot, or a flanker in the slot. Personnel is certainly part of the scheme, but the Run & Shoot is a philosophy as much as it is a formation. Spread the field and take the open holes. Now, that said, Vincent is a better blocker than receiver. I don't know how Jones fits a NFL caliber athlete like Chase into his scheme. I guess we shall see.
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