Florida State self probation

[smu diamond m]

Florida State slaps probation on itself
Posted on February 14, 2008
from Staff Reports

Florida State University officials Thursday proposed a series of penalties, including scholarship reductions in several sports, because of academic misconduct.




Officials looking into alleged academic fraud at Florida State recommended two years of probation and loss of scholarships proportional to the various sports' involvement with the incident, the Tallahassee (Fla.) Democrat reported.

A breakdown of sports involved wasn't available but 25 football players have been given game suspensions in relation to the investigation.

Florida State President T.K. Wetherell said the results of the internal investigation would be sent to the NCAA, which was expected to carry out its own probe which could result in additional penalties.

The school's investigation began last March when a student-athlete reported to officials that a "learning specialist" told him to take an online test for another athlete and then provided answers for the test. The report Thursday said 50 student-athletes were found to be involved.

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel said the school's report suggested the firing of the learning specialist and a tutor and personnel changes in the athletics department's academic support department.

Copyright 2008 by United Press International

[SMU Football Blog]

What is truly amazing is the many levels of laziness here.

1) online class;
2) tutor (not even the actual student) asks another person to take the test for an athlete;
3) tutor gives the student the answers.

Really, WTF? They can't even just give the answers to actual athlete? Dd the athlete even know he was enrolled in the class?

[smu diamond m]

What is truly amazing is the many levels of laziness here.

1) online class;
2) tutor (not even the actual student) asks another person to take the test for an athlete;
3) tutor gives the student the answers.

Really, WTF? They can't even just give the answers to actual athlete? Dd the athlete even know he was enrolled in the class?

The make the scout teams take the tests for the real players hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


that way the starters have more time to get arrested

[jtstang]

What is truly amazing is the many levels of laziness here.

1) online class;
2) tutor (not even the actual student) asks another person to take the test for an athlete;
3) tutor gives the student the answers.

Really, WTF? They can't even just give the answers to actual athlete? Dd the athlete even know he was enrolled in the class?

Plausible deniability. Ingenious.

[hawaiisashimi_smu]

I can see another "death penalty" a come'in. Its about time someone else got the ax!

[ponyte]

I can see another "death penalty" a come'in. Its about time someone else got the ax!

The question is, which Division II or non BSC school will get it?

[EastStang]

Woe to the next non-BCS school to commit a violation. My money would be on Fresno State. They're still on Tark probation in basketball, so any scandel would make them DP eligible. The other candidate would be North Dakota because they had the cojones to sue the NCAA over their nickname.

[Peruna 2K5]

I can see another "death penalty" a come'in. Its about time someone else got the ax!

Your joking right? That wont happen.

[J.T.supporta]

I can see another "death penalty" a come'in. Its about time someone else got the ax! 8)

lay off the koolaid and the crack pipe...NCAA wont do that again.

[CalallenStang]

What is truly amazing is the many levels of laziness here.

1) online class;
2) tutor (not even the actual student) asks another person to take the test for an athlete;
3) tutor gives the student the answers.

Really, WTF? They can't even just give the answers to actual athlete? Dd the athlete even know he was enrolled in the class?

Plausible deniability. Ingenious.

Exactly...now the athlete can just say he had no idea about any of this going on, and the athlete escapes blame.

[Grider]

This link shows the summary of all major ncaa football violations since SMU. It's only through 2002 but still interesting and informative.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=1284249&type=story

[smu diamond m]

What is truly amazing is the many levels of laziness here.

1) online class;
2) tutor (not even the actual student) asks another person to take the test for an athlete;
3) tutor gives the student the answers.

Really, WTF? They can't even just give the answers to actual athlete? Dd the athlete even know he was enrolled in the class?

Plausible deniability. Ingenious.

Exactly...now the athlete can just say he had no idea about any of this going on, and the athlete escapes blame.

But the school obviously doesn't... How can the athlete plausibly deny having a test that was magically taken without his knowledge? Would his defense be "I never go to class"? Isn't that a violation too?

[CalallenStang]

What is truly amazing is the many levels of laziness here.

1) online class;
2) tutor (not even the actual student) asks another person to take the test for an athlete;
3) tutor gives the student the answers.

Really, WTF? They can't even just give the answers to actual athlete? Dd the athlete even know he was enrolled in the class?

Plausible deniability. Ingenious.

Exactly...now the athlete can just say he had no idea about any of this going on, and the athlete escapes blame.

But the school obviously doesn't... How can the athlete plausibly deny having a test that was magically taken without his knowledge? Would his defense be "I never go to class"? Isn't that a violation too?

Was the athlete ever told he was enrolled in the class? (Obviously, there are so many ways to figure out whether or not you are enrolled in a class...but thats immaterial if the school chooses to protect its athletes)

The school can't escape the blame in this one...the athletes can

[smu diamond m]

Wow. I hadn't thought at that large of a scale. "I was enrolled in classes? WHAT?!?!?!"

[CalallenStang]

Wow. I hadn't thought at that large of a scale. "I was enrolled in classes? WHAT?!?!?!"

Remember, this is FSU we are talking about, not Harvard