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by indianmustang » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:43 am
IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL.... Really, a turnaround similar to 0-12 to 9-4 is possible. SMU could put it all together, overachieve and end up bowling in 2008. 7-5 could happen even with the relatively tough schedule.
This is the hardest team to predict in the conference for that reason.
Preseason Newcomer of the Year: QB Logan Turner, SMU
http://southerncollegesports.com/fb_08_preview_cusa.html
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by ponyte » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:44 am
If Jones has a good offensive year, would not one of our receivers and QB have a shot at all conference? It is odd that we have potentially the most explosive offense in the conference but no preseason all conference picks.
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by couch 'em » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:52 am
It's all "maybe" and "if" at this point. Not worthy of all-conference picks without some performance history.
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by Stallion » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:28 am
We only have one proven quality receiver. We have a guy in Robinson who is poised to become the second. Hopefully, Haynes can become a third. The freshman I believe will eventually get recruited over-they will play-not sure they will excell. Tulsa has about 8 quality receivers. Don't think SMU should be mentioned in comparison to Tulsa as far as explosive offenses.
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by White Helmet » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:52 am
Stallion wrote:We only have one proven quality receiver. We have a guy in Robinson who is poised to become the second. Hopefully, Haynes can become a third. The freshman I believe will eventually get recruited over-they will play-not sure they will excell. Tulsa has about 8 quality receivers. Don't think SMU should be mentioned in comparison to Tulsa as far as explosive offenses.
8 quality receivers...hyperbole again. Please name their 8 proven quality receivers. I will even let you count Charles Clay as a receiver even though he is listed as a RB.
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by MustangStealth » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:26 pm
White Helmet wrote:8 quality receivers...hyperbole again. Please name their 8 proven quality receivers. I will even let you count Charles Clay as a receiver even though he is listed as a RB.
1.Steve Largent
2.Howard Twilley
Oh wait, you meant current...
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by CalallenStang » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:33 pm
Stallion wrote:We only have one proven quality receiver. We have a guy in Robinson who is poised to become the second. Hopefully, Haynes can become a third. The freshman I believe will eventually get recruited over-they will play-not sure they will excell. Tulsa has about 8 quality receivers. Don't think SMU should be mentioned in comparison to Tulsa as far as explosive offenses.
Drewery should become a quality receiver. You can't teach size.
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by White Helmet » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:35 pm
I fully understand his point that we only have 1 proven WR I am just disagreeing that Tulsa has "8"
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by White Helmet » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:36 pm
CalallenStang wrote:Drewery should become a quality receiver. You can't teach size.
I am 6'5"-6'6" and yet no one wanted me to play WR, size is not everything
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by Stallion » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:43 pm
RECEIVING GP-GS No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
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Johnson, Trae 13-5 67 1039 15.5 11 51 79.9
Clay, Charles 13-9 58 955 16.5 6 53 73.5
Marion, Brennan 13-6 39 1244 31.9 11 75 95.7
Meyer, Jesse 13-4 34 488 14.4 2 35 37.5
Toliver, Dion 13-5 34 392 11.5 1 49 30.2
Clemons, Cameron 13-4 26 256 9.8 5 24 19.7
Adams, Tarrion 13-6 26 244 9.4 2 25 18.8
Williams, Jamad 13-7 6 70 11.7 0 22 5.4
Grooms, Kyle 13-6 5 52 10.4 1 14 4.0
Whitmore, A.J. 13-1 3 15 5.0 1 15 1.2
Johnson, Clay, Marion, Meyer, Tolliver especially have All CUSA recognition ability. Plus add in the Highly recruited BCS Transfers in Slick Skelly from Tennessee and is it Williams from Arkansas. Whitemore was only a freshman last year but was highly recruited. Take a close look at catches, yards, ypc and TDs and Tulsa is loaded two deep.
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by SmooBoy » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:51 pm
So Jamad Williams caught 6 more balls and the same number of TDs (0) than I did - guess I am considered a quality WR as well.
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by Stallion » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:54 pm
he's actually a RB which got pasted when I transferred so is Torrion Adams. Nevetheless Tulsa is 8 deep in quality receivers.
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by White Helmet » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:32 pm
Stallion wrote:RECEIVING GP-GS No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G --------------------------------------------------------- Johnson, Trae 13-5 67 1039 15.5 11 51 79.9 Clay, Charles 13-9 58 955 16.5 6 53 73.5 Marion, Brennan 13-6 39 1244 31.9 11 75 95.7 Meyer, Jesse 13-4 34 488 14.4 2 35 37.5 Toliver, Dion 13-5 34 392 11.5 1 49 30.2 Clemons, Cameron 13-4 26 256 9.8 5 24 19.7 Adams, Tarrion 13-6 26 244 9.4 2 25 18.8 Williams, Jamad 13-7 6 70 11.7 0 22 5.4 Grooms, Kyle 13-6 5 52 10.4 1 14 4.0 Whitmore, A.J. 13-1 3 15 5.0 1 15 1.2 Johnson, Clay, Marion, Meyer, Tolliver especially have All CUSA recognition ability. Plus add in the Highly recruited BCS Transfers in Slick Skelly from Tennessee and is it Williams from Arkansas. Whitemore was only a freshman last year but was highly recruited. Take a close look at catches, yards, ypc and TDs and Tulsa is loaded two deep.
I will give you Johnson, Clay Marion, Meyer, Toliver, that is only 5.
Clemons was a SR last year so I dont think he is playing again this year.
Adams Willimas, Grooms are all RB or non-factors
Whitmore while being highly recruited has nothing to do with being "established" as you put it same goes for Shelly how many catches does he have in NCAA games...0? Granted they could become excellent receivers but you said they had 8 established receivers, which is hyperbole. You always try to make it look like we are up against some monsters when the truth is we just plain suck most of the time.
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by jimhagle » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:40 pm
Just wondering Stallion-how good is Tulsa up front offensively where everything starts?
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by SmooBoy » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:46 pm
Well with 8 quality receivers, I am guessing they have 22 quality lineman, 6 TEs, 3 deep snappers, and at least 4 K/Ps on the roster. I have not looked as thoroughly as he has.
Don't forget the 18 towel girls and that they are most likely 3-deep at the guys/gals that retrieve the kicking tee.
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