To Hawaii Posters

[Stallion]

What I'd like to know from Hawaii fans is how SMU can get to play 62% home games and 38% away games as Hawaii has for about the last 8 years. BTW for those interested Hawaii is 17-17 on the Road since about 2001

[Warbow]

What I'd like to know from Hawaii fans is how SMU can get to play 62% home games and 38% away games as Hawaii has for about the last 8 years. BTW for those interested Hawaii is 17-17 on the Road since about 2001

It's called an extra home game if you play in Hawaii. For teams that have huge home attendence figures that one extra home game covers the cost of traveling to Hawaii with a little left over gravy money.

As far as the away record goes, it's the best of any Hawaii coach. JJ's Hawaii road record 20-21.

[Dr Death]

BTW for those interested Hawaii is 17-17 on the Road since about 2001

Why do posts like this exist? What does Hawaii's road record since 2001 have to do with SMU in 2008? Let's see... for Hawaii to have a road game it means that they have to spend at least 5 + hours in the air...

Ever experienced the effects a body goes through when confined to an airplane for 5... 6... 7 hours or more? Unless you travel to Europe regularly then I doubt you can relate.

Point is SMU won't be playing any away games that have them in the air for that length of time, so the situation will be different.

I can't wait for next week... at least the season starts and all the [deleted] can finally end...

[ALEX LIFESON]

BTW for those interested Hawaii is 17-17 on the Road since about 2001

Why do posts like this exist? What does Hawaii's road record since 2001 have to do with SMU in 2008? Let's see... for Hawaii to have a road game it means that they have to spend at least 5 + hours in the air...

Ever experienced the effects a body goes through when confined to an airplane for 5... 6... 7 hours or more? Unless you travel to Europe regularly then I doubt you can relate.

Point is SMU won't be playing any away games that have them in the air for that length of time, so the situation will be different.

I can't wait for next week... at least the season starts and all the [deleted] can finally end...

You have spent enough time over here, or you would understand.

[Warbow]

BTW for those interested Hawaii is 17-17 on the Road since about 2001

Why do posts like this exist? What does Hawaii's road record since 2001 have to do with SMU in 2008? Let's see... for Hawaii to have a road game it means that they have to spend at least 5 + hours in the air...

Ever experienced the effects a body goes through when confined to an airplane for 5... 6... 7 hours or more? Unless you travel to Europe regularly then I doubt you can relate.

Point is SMU won't be playing any away games that have them in the air for that length of time, so the situation will be different.

I can't wait for next week... at least the season starts and all the [deleted] can finally end...

I though it was a verry good post. it showed how JJ and Hawaii overcame these travel problems and did pretty decent. Hawaii has always been known to have a losing record on the mainland but what people failed to realize was, JJ fixed that. Sure the road record wasn't the greatest, but it was Hawaii's best.

[ozfan]

Here's a nice article in regards to JJ's former QB's and how well they did.

http://dh523.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/h ... ing-style/

It seems Jones keep the faith in the Run game 35 - 40 % while in the pros but that dropped off to less than 35% when he got Hawii. Is this because he had bad rb's at Hawii or because he became engrossed in the throw first at all cost frame of mind.

[Dr Death]

Here's a nice article in regards to JJ's former QB's and how well they did.

http://dh523.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/h ... ing-style/

It seems Jones keep the faith in the Run game 35 - 40 % while in the pros but that dropped off to less than 35% when he got Hawii. Is this because he had bad rb's at Hawii or because he became engrossed in the throw first at all cost frame of mind.

Throwing the ball is who June is and what he is all about. When he played for the Falcons he once told QB Steve Bartkowski that he would one day coach a team and never call a running play.

June has been immersed in the Run & Shoot since he met Mouse Davis and he's also one of the few who has the guts to let football purists know there are more ways to move the football.

One thing to keep in mind, particularly his last few years at Hawaii, is the Shovel Pass, which technically is listed as a pass, was substituted for the draw play. They found they could have greater success with that play than the draw was giving them. So while the numbers may appear skewed, there are other ways he makes a defense pay attention to the run and running type plays.

I may be wrong, but I would bet the first season here at SMU will be about 63-37 pass... As the team grows more comfortable that number will change. At Hawaii the past three years he's had Colt Brennan as the trigger man and three very talented WR's in Bess, Grice-Mullen and Rivers.

One thing a lot of SMU fans will have to get used to is June's always thinking pass. Always. The run will be used for keeping defenses honest and maybe giving a WR or two a play off...

Also, click that link listed above, go to 2006 and check out Ilaoa's stats... 131 carries for 990 yards... those are unbelievable numbers...

[Garret]

BTW for those interested Hawaii is 17-17 on the Road since about 2001

Why do posts like this exist? What does Hawaii's road record since 2001 have to do with SMU in 2008? Let's see... for Hawaii to have a road game it means that they have to spend at least 5 + hours in the air...

Ever experienced the effects a body goes through when confined to an airplane for 5... 6... 7 hours or more? Unless you travel to Europe regularly then I doubt you can relate.

Point is SMU won't be playing any away games that have them in the air for that length of time, so the situation will be different.

I can't wait for next week... at least the season starts and all the [deleted] can finally end...

I though it was a verry good post. it showed how JJ and Hawaii overcame these travel problems and did pretty decent. Hawaii has always been known to have a losing record on the mainland but what people failed to realize was, JJ fixed that. Sure the road record wasn't the greatest, but it was Hawaii's best.

Wow, that was actually a very positive post from Warbow! I remember years of frustration watching UH lose on the road, even with the better pre-JJ teams. Going 0.500 was a huge improvement...though I'm worried that the loss of charter flights from Hawaii to the mainland will hurt the road game performance now. At least the team now expects to win on the road--that attitude change started under JJ and should continue under Mack.

[Garret]

Try this link for corroboration. http://starbulletin.com/2005/07/25/sports/story1.html

I counted about 6 NFL players names on it and it came of my very first search on June Jones +Andre Rison. It's kinda funny reading back on it. He didn't even mention Colt Brennan but had Graunke as our QB. The running backs he mention never playered a single down that year.

I really do not think that article supports your case that JJ goes overboard in his NFL comparisons...I know I've read interviews with him where he's done more comparisons than that.

The article compares Bess to Rison--Bess had an awesome college career and started at slot receiver last week for the Dolphins. He is acknowledged to have the best hands by all 3 newspapers that have reporters that cover Miami's practices and he's expected to be their #3 or #4 WR as a rookie.

He said that Graunke was the starter at that point (with no NFL QB comparison in the article), which was the case. Colt Brennan hadn't had a practice yet with the team.

He said that he would play Samson Satele at center so the NFL guys could see him. Samson was a 2nd round draft pick and immediately earned the starting center spot in the NFL and is still the starter despite the coaching change in Miami. I think that Samson *is* comparable with Vince Manuwai in their NFL success, though maybe Samson earned a starting job quicker in camp.

He mentioned Tala Esera and Dane Uperesa--both were on NFL rosters all of last season.

[hawaiisashimi_smu]

I guess the best way to understand what and why JJ says things is to understand that he is and has been totally commited to the R&S and as long as he is coach, that is the way it will be. Like JJ says, "We are what we are. We throw the ball."

Our previous HC who went 0-12 before JJ took over used to change the offense every year from west coast, to spread, to option. He switched his DC to be the OC the following year because the DC was doing well with the D, so he thought the DC could improve the O. Obviously, no previous HC experience.

JJ does one thing and is the best at the R&S.

JJ is also a player's coach and treats his players like adults which is probably acquired from his pro coaching days. He would rather talk about and emphasize the positive and stay away or down play the negative. Knowing that JJ uses coach speak, it is just as important to remember what JJ did not say and what he actually does. But most of the time, JJ is a straight shooter and tells it like it is. That can get people confused and frustrated as to what he actually meant. He can contradict himself when he shoots straight and switches to coach speak. He also wants to confuse the opposition in their perparations for their game against the R&S. Actually giving out misinformation or a peak of a new wrinkle that the opposing coach will have to worry about and spend time analyzing and prepping. He can drive opposing coaches nuts to try to keep them off balance.

Being a player's coach, JJ likes to emphasize the positive side of his players to build them up to work harder and over achieve. That is part of the reason why he compares some players to NFL players. So in public JJ likes to address the positives and stay away from the negative when his players are involved. He works real hard trying to get his players into the NFL or a chance for a tryout.

But boys will be boys and these young men can get in trouble at times. Infractions and disciplinary action is handled by the coaching staff in private. Every chance is made to not talk about the negatives of the players actions. If JJ says something negative, he will say something positive to balance things out. So some of you SMU fans my find yourselves wondering "what did he say?"

JJ does not like to pull a player when he makes a mistake on the field. As an example, if a receiver drops a sure catch he may call a play or the same play that will get the ball thrown right back to that same player and give him a chance to make a completion. Then he will pull that player. He always tries to have his players finish on a positive note to build confidence.

It can get complicated. So in a nut shell, that is JJ speak.

[NickSMU17]

love it...

can't wait for June to rebuild this thing...

With the cubs looking strong and SMU coming back slowly it could be some very exciting times for my teams...

[SMU 86]

He also wants to confuse the opposition in their perparations for their game against the R&S. Actually giving out misinformation or a peak of a new wrinkle that the opposing coach will have to worry about and spend time analyzing and prepping. He can drive opposing coaches nuts to try to keep them off balance.

Thanks for the info. I like tactics.

[Warbow]

I guess the best way to understand what and why JJ says things is to understand that he is and has been totally commited to the R&S and as long as he is coach, that is the way it will be. Like JJ says, "We are what we are. We throw the ball."

Our previous HC who went 0-12 before JJ took over used to change the offense every year from west coast, to spread, to option. He switched his DC to be the OC the following year because the DC was doing well with the D, so he thought the DC could improve the O. Obviously, no previous HC experience.

JJ does one thing and is the best at the R&S.

JJ is also a player's coach and treats his players like adults which is probably acquired from his pro coaching days. He would rather talk about and emphasize the positive and stay away or down play the negative. Knowing that JJ uses coach speak, it is just as important to remember what JJ did not say and what he actually does. But most of the time, JJ is a straight shooter and tells it like it is. That can get people confused and frustrated as to what he actually meant. He can contradict himself when he shoots straight and switches to coach speak. He also wants to confuse the opposition in their perparations for their game against the R&S. Actually giving out misinformation or a peak of a new wrinkle that the opposing coach will have to worry about and spend time analyzing and prepping. He can drive opposing coaches nuts to try to keep them off balance.

Being a player's coach, JJ likes to emphasize the positive side of his players to build them up to work harder and over achieve. That is part of the reason why he compares some players to NFL players. So in public JJ likes to address the positives and stay away from the negative when his players are involved. He works real hard trying to get his players into the NFL or a chance for a tryout.

But boys will be boys and these young men can get in trouble at times. Infractions and disciplinary action is handled by the coaching staff in private. Every chance is made to not talk about the negatives of the players actions. If JJ says something negative, he will say something positive to balance things out. So some of you SMU fans my find yourselves wondering "what did he say?"

JJ does not like to pull a player when he makes a mistake on the field. As an example, if a receiver drops a sure catch he may call a play or the same play that will get the ball thrown right back to that same player and give him a chance to make a completion. Then he will pull that player. He always tries to have his players finish on a positive note to build confidence.

It can get complicated. So in a nut shell, that is JJ speak.

You give the man much to much credit. I believe he just doesn't have a way with words and can't express what he really is trying to say. Other then that, he's just a lazy dude.

[hawaiisashimi_smu]

I guess the best way to understand what and why JJ says things is to understand that he is and has been totally commited to the R&S and as long as he is coach, that is the way it will be. Like JJ says, "We are what we are. We throw the ball."

Our previous HC who went 0-12 before JJ took over used to change the offense every year from west coast, to spread, to option. He switched his DC to be the OC the following year because the DC was doing well with the D, so he thought the DC could improve the O. Obviously, no previous HC experience.

JJ does one thing and is the best at the R&S.

JJ is also a player's coach and treats his players like adults which is probably acquired from his pro coaching days. He would rather talk about and emphasize the positive and stay away or down play the negative. Knowing that JJ uses coach speak, it is just as important to remember what JJ did not say and what he actually does. But most of the time, JJ is a straight shooter and tells it like it is. That can get people confused and frustrated as to what he actually meant. He can contradict himself when he shoots straight and switches to coach speak. He also wants to confuse the opposition in their perparations for their game against the R&S. Actually giving out misinformation or a peak of a new wrinkle that the opposing coach will have to worry about and spend time analyzing and prepping. He can drive opposing coaches nuts to try to keep them off balance.

Being a player's coach, JJ likes to emphasize the positive side of his players to build them up to work harder and over achieve. That is part of the reason why he compares some players to NFL players. So in public JJ likes to address the positives and stay away from the negative when his players are involved. He works real hard trying to get his players into the NFL or a chance for a tryout.

But boys will be boys and these young men can get in trouble at times. Infractions and disciplinary action is handled by the coaching staff in private. Every chance is made to not talk about the negatives of the players actions. If JJ says something negative, he will say something positive to balance things out. So some of you SMU fans my find yourselves wondering "what did he say?"

JJ does not like to pull a player when he makes a mistake on the field. As an example, if a receiver drops a sure catch he may call a play or the same play that will get the ball thrown right back to that same player and give him a chance to make a completion. Then he will pull that player. He always tries to have his players finish on a positive note to build confidence.

It can get complicated. So in a nut shell, that is JJ speak.

You give the man much to much credit. I believe he just doesn't have a way with words and can't express what he really is trying to say. Other then that, he's just a lazy dude.

Come on now. You are really calling JJ a lazy dude? He is totally dedicated but he does not expect his assistant coahces to put in the same hours. So look at the national exposure SMU has been getting. National ESPN and nationaL sports radio. etc. So SMU has been getting free expoosure since day one.

THE LAST I SAW, SMU WAS RANKED 115 IN THE NATION!

WOW! YA'LL WAS NATIONAL POWERS ALL THESE YEARS!

And JJ got all this national attention by being ranked 115!

Why, BYU must be way rankied better than BYU?????? Chit!

[hawaiisashimi_smu]

I guess the best way to understand what and why JJ says things is to understand that he is and has been totally commited to the R&S and as long as he is coach, that is the way it will be. Like JJ says, "We are what we are. We throw the ball."

Our previous HC who went 0-12 before JJ took over used to change the offense every year from west coast, to spread, to option. He switched his DC to be the OC the following year because the DC was doing well with the D, so he thought the DC could improve the O. Obviously, no previous HC experience.

JJ does one thing and is the best at the R&S.

JJ is also a player's coach and treats his players like adults which is probably acquired from his pro coaching days. He would rather talk about and emphasize the positive and stay away or down play the negative. Knowing that JJ uses coach speak, it is just as important to remember what JJ did not say and what he actually does. But most of the time, JJ is a straight shooter and tells it like it is. That can get people confused and frustrated as to what he actually meant. He can contradict himself when he shoots straight and switches to coach speak. He also wants to confuse the opposition in their perparations for their game against the R&S. Actually giving out misinformation or a peak of a new wrinkle that the opposing coach will have to worry about and spend time analyzing and prepping. He can drive opposing coaches nuts to try to keep them off balance.

Being a player's coach, JJ likes to emphasize the positive side of his players to build them up to work harder and over achieve. That is part of the reason why he compares some players to NFL players. So in public JJ likes to address the positives and stay away from the negative when his players are involved. He works real hard trying to get his players into the NFL or a chance for a tryout.

But boys will be boys and these young men can get in trouble at times. Infractions and disciplinary action is handled by the coaching staff in private. Every chance is made to not talk about the negatives of the players actions. If JJ says something negative, he will say something positive to balance things out. So some of you SMU fans my find yourselves wondering "what did he say?"

JJ does not like to pull a player when he makes a mistake on the field. As an example, if a receiver drops a sure catch he may call a play or the same play that will get the ball thrown right back to that same player and give him a chance to make a completion. Then he will pull that player. He always tries to have his players finish on a positive note to build confidence.

It can get complicated. So in a nut shell, that is JJ speak.

You give the man much to much credit. I believe he just doesn't have a way with words and can't express what he really is trying to say. Other then that, he's just a lazy dude.

Its cool Warbow. How many Warrior recruits did you make into NFL recruits? Talk to Pisa Tinoesamoa. He was top draft pick until he faced felony charges but JJ saved his @$$ from prison and he is a multi-milliion dollar NFL LB. Non of the multi-million dollar BCS teams would drft him.