PonyFans.comBoard IndexAround the HilltopFootballRecruitingBasketballOther Sports

Bartel Gets Big Shot

This is the forum for talk about SMU Football

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

Bartel Gets Big Shot

Postby Stallion » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:45 pm

Stallion
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 44302
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2000 4:01 am
Location: Dallas,Texas,USA

Postby J.T.supporta » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:47 pm

If Bartel plays well then the team could retain him for the practice squad again...i know it may not seem like much but I wish him the best Thursday night
User avatar
J.T.supporta
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 6160
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:27 pm
Location: SMU

Postby expony18 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:04 pm

i've known bartel since i was 14, the only thing holding him back is his head....


side note and one of the most interesting things that has come out of "hard knocks" is the story on Martellus Bennett... From the article:
Witten's tough love: Veteran tight end Dan Campbell didn't do Jason Witten any favors when he first arrived in the NFL. Witten treats rookie Martellus Bennett the same way.

Witten said Bennett must understand that this is a job. The former Texas A&M standout must show that he's serious about becoming a good player. Only then will Witten step in and show Bennett how to take the next step.

"He says it all the time, 'Jason doesn't like me,' " Witten said. "I'm going to let him figure it out. He's got to figure it out first, and when he does, obviously that's when I come along."


I never liked Bennett at A&M, even though he was a superior athlete. MB has some serious attitude problems, and seems unwilling to adjust to life as a professional athlete. I realize that he would have been a first round pick next year, but he has a lot to learn if he wants to make it in the Not For Long.
expony18
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9968
Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:54 pm

Postby 03Mustang » Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:27 am

expony18 wrote:i've known bartel since i was 14, the only thing holding him back is his head....


side note and one of the most interesting things that has come out of "hard knocks" is the story on Martellus Bennett... From the article:
Witten's tough love: Veteran tight end Dan Campbell didn't do Jason Witten any favors when he first arrived in the NFL. Witten treats rookie Martellus Bennett the same way.

Witten said Bennett must understand that this is a job. The former Texas A&M standout must show that he's serious about becoming a good player. Only then will Witten step in and show Bennett how to take the next step.

"He says it all the time, 'Jason doesn't like me,' " Witten said. "I'm going to let him figure it out. He's got to figure it out first, and when he does, obviously that's when I come along."


I never liked Bennett at A&M, even though he was a superior athlete. MB has some serious attitude problems, and seems unwilling to adjust to life as a professional athlete. I realize that he would have been a first round pick next year, but he has a lot to learn if he wants to make it in the Not For Long.


The guy never comes off as being serious about his work on Hard Knocks. It's like he doesn't even respond to his coaches...verbally or physically.

I don't get why we took him in the 2nd anway...we should have traded up for Limas Sweed or another WR. Guess that's what happens when you have the worst GM in football. I'm predicting Felix Jones will be a bust also...Julius part II.
03Mustang
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4238
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:47 am
Location: Allen, TX

Postby SMU2007 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:52 am

03Mustang wrote: I'm predicting Felix Jones will be a bust also...Julius part II.


felix can't be the bust that julius was because we're not asking him to be a starting RB. i think he'll be good - maybe not as great as some are saying but good and way better than julius... mr. 1.2 yards per carry
User avatar
SMU2007
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 5561
Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:41 am

Postby 03Mustang » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:04 am

SMU2007 wrote:
03Mustang wrote: I'm predicting Felix Jones will be a bust also...Julius part II.


felix can't be the bust that julius was because we're not asking him to be a starting RB. i think he'll be good - maybe not as great as some are saying but good and way better than julius... mr. 1.2 yards per carry


Felix can't break tackles at all - one hit and he's down. I think he'll be a guy that can catch screen passes or the short dump offs, but he'll never even be an adequate RB between the tackles
03Mustang
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4238
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:47 am
Location: Allen, TX

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:43 am

"Guess that's what happens when you have the worst GM in football"

What a crock!

So if Jerry Jones with 3 Super Bowl Rings, a brand new state
of the art stadium, a team that went 13-3 in the regular season
last year is the worst GM in football, what are all the other GM's
that have failed to even appear in one Super Bowl? Who are all
these other great current GM's that have a better botton line?


Image
C-ya @ Milos!
User avatar
Insane_Pony_Posse
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4807
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:36 pm
Location: Dallas, Texas

Postby 03Mustang » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:49 am

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:"Guess that's what happens when you have the worst GM in football"

What a crock!

So if Jerry Jones with 3 Super Bowl Rings, a brand new state
of the art stadium, a team that went 13-3 in the regular season
last year is the worst GM in football, what are all the other GM's
that have failed to even appear in one Super Bowl? Who are all
these other great current GM's that have a better botton line?


OK, and if Jerry Jones were able to be fired as GM, do you think there's a single team out there that would hire him based on his abilities in that capacity? This is the guy that reached 3 rounds on Quincy Carter, traded two 1st rounders for Joey Galloway, and who (along with Parcells) passed on Stephen Jackson for Julius Jones and what ended up being a very mediocre Marcus Spears....not to mention the last 10 seasons of horrible football prior to last year.

Don't forget what preceeded the 13-3 season last year. Were it not for the Detroit Lions and Arizona Cardinals, the Cowboys might have been the worst-run team in the NFL from the late 90s to the early 2000s.

And GMs don't get stadiums built, owners do. I'm not knocking him as an owner - only as a GM.
03Mustang
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4238
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:47 am
Location: Allen, TX

Postby Dooby » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:55 am

If you graded GM's solely on their mistakes, they would all get "F's."
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
User avatar
Dooby
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 3005
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas, USA

Postby George S. Patton » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:00 am

Bartel's got a long road ahead of him. But he sounds determined to see this thing through until nobody wants him. Can't argue with the little bonus he made in January.
George S. Patton
 

Postby 03Mustang » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:02 am

Dooby wrote:If you graded GM's solely on their mistakes, they would all get "F's."


Look at the 1995-2002 drafts (pre-Parcells, who also had terrible drafts in 04 and 06) and tell me there is anything but an F there. And don't tell me Roy Williams was a good pick - he's the most over rated player in football. Flozell, Ellis, and a couple others were the only hits he had during that whole time.

http://www.databasefootball.com/draft/d ... DAL&lg=nfl

Jerry gets an F for his tenure here as GM. Any other GM would have been fired after doing as poorly as this team has since 1996.
03Mustang
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4238
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:47 am
Location: Allen, TX

Postby J.T.supporta » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:46 am

Once the NFL salary cap is Lifted, you will want to retract that "worst GM" statement
User avatar
J.T.supporta
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 6160
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:27 pm
Location: SMU

Postby couch 'em » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:30 am

J.T.supporta wrote:Once the NFL salary cap is Lifted, you will want to retract that "worst GM" statement


Wasn't he involved in instituting the salary cap in the first place?
"I think Couchem is right."
-EVERYONE
User avatar
couch 'em
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9758
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Farmers Branch

Postby EastStang » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:09 pm

If the salary cap is lifted, Dan-O Snyder will get to match him $$$$ for $$$$. Snyder is the guy who blew his salary cap on some of the most worthless free agents known to man, like Bruce "I got a sack this year" Smith. Luckily when Gibbs came on board, he told Dan to play with his theme park and let Gibbs do the heavy lifting. But then again Gibbs traded several draft choices for Jason Campbell who had not been very impressive so far.
EastStang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12668
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2002 4:01 am

Postby Longtime » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:28 pm

Guess that's what happens when you have the worst GM in football.


Ahem (clears throat)...Matt Millen.
User avatar
Longtime
All-American
 
Posts: 756
Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Next

Return to Football

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests