JJ's press conference

[Junior]

I'm more interested in knowing how Sunshine knows that Haynes has 7% bodyfat.....

[Nacho]

Haynes looke like the real deal to me. Maybe he's not a great practice player. Not all of our WRs have to be under 6'.

[Cadillac]

Haynes looke like the real deal to me. Maybe he's not a great practice player. Not all of our WRs have to be under 6'.

It's one of those things that we'll never know. If Haynes cracks the line up down the road, one camp will yell: "See, June had to admit he was wrong!" while the other camp screams:"See, Haynes finally corrected his flaws!" And Stallion will say:"See, he had 3 stars!" And Patton will bight Stallions Ankle.

And that should be good for at least 2 days worth of posting.

I love us.

-CoS

[JasonB]

I am not too enamored with our other WRs either. And I never said anything about Haynes being overwieght or injured or anything like that. Just saying that despite his physical attributes, my personal observations at practice during the spring is that he just wasn't into the thing as much as the other guys, he seemed to loaf through the drills.

All I am offering up is that there is a reason that freaking Zach Zimmerman is starting and Bradley Haynes isn't. And the reason is not JJ can't see talent or JJ has personal vendettas even though neither player was recruited by him.

When I see mistakes by the coaches on personell evaluations, I am the first to bring them up as my opinion, but I just don't see it here right now, because Haynes certainly isn't dominating practices in order to gain respect of the coaching staff. The only thing I saw that I would question right now is why is Castro playing, but that is about it. Haynes has a lot of ability, but he needs to show that at practice before he is gonna get on the field consistantly. The fact that he is sitting behind players with obvious physical deficiencies says a lot more about him than it does about Coach Jones.

[jason54858]

First off dude, I have been to the same practices you have and neither Wilkerson nor Zimmerman showed me anything to suggest the are even close to the WR Haynes is.

[J.T.supporta]

First off dude, I have been to the same practices you have and neither Wilkerson nor Zimmerman showed me anything to suggest the are even close to the WR Haynes is.

you sir would be correct.

[JasonB]

First off dude, I have been to the same practices you have and neither Wilkerson nor Zimmerman showed me anything to suggest the are even close to the WR Haynes is.

And again, I am not saying in any way that Zimmerman is really talented or anything like that. We obviously don't have a lot of d-1 reciever talent on the team right now. But there are reasons Haynes is lower on the depth chart and it isn't a conspiracy or secret pictures or anything like that. What I am saying is that if Haynes can't even beat those guys out then obviously he isn't impressing in certian areas.

[jason54858]

First off dude, I have been to the same practices you have and neither Wilkerson nor Zimmerman showed me anything to suggest the are even close to the WR Haynes is.

And again, I am not saying in any way that Zimmerman is really talented or anything like that. We obviously don't have a lot of d-1 reciever talent on the team right now. But there are reasons Haynes is lower on the depth chart and it isn't a conspiracy or secret pictures or anything like that. What I am saying is that if Haynes can't even beat those guys out then obviously he isn't impressing in certian areas.

And for what I am telling you looking at practice Haynes seems to be one of the only D-1 talent this team has at WR. I mean Aldric and Sanders are nice players but a 5-10 150 player who runs a 4.4 is a dime dozen these days. It has to a conspiarcy he is not playing

[Cadillac]

And for what I am telling you looking at practice Haynes seems to be one of the only D-1 talent this team has at WR. I mean Aldric and Sanders are nice players but a 5-10 150 player who runs a 4.4 is a dime dozen these days. It has to a conspiarcy he is not playing

Serriously Jay... What's your relationship to the guy? You show up when he's a recruit, posting "inside info" on him (or at least his schedule) you constantly cite your "inside source" and now you're telling us that he's a better D1 prospect than a 3rd year starter who's lead the team in receiving as a Freshman and Sophomore?

Every single person on this board hopes that Hayne's is lighting it up for the next four years and really shows the talent that we had a glimpse of on Friday. But both coaching staff's have put Robinson ahead of him on the depth chart, and both coaches wanted to win.

I hope he can do whatever he needs to to get the job.

-CoS

[jason54858]

And for what I am telling you looking at practice Haynes seems to be one of the only D-1 talent this team has at WR. I mean Aldric and Sanders are nice players but a 5-10 150 player who runs a 4.4 is a dime dozen these days. It has to a conspiarcy he is not playing

Serriously Jay... What's your relationship to the guy? You show up when he's a recruit, posting "inside info" on him (or at least his schedule) you constantly cite your "inside source" and now you're telling us that he's a better D1 prospect than a 3rd year starter who's lead the team in receiving as a Freshman and Sophomore?

Every single person on this board hopes that Hayne's is lighting it up for the next four years and really shows the talent that we had a glimpse of on Friday. But both coaching staff's have put Robinson ahead of him on the depth chart, and both coaches wanted to win.

I hope he can do whatever he needs to to get the job.

-CoS

Honestly, I have had other people use my password and info to get through to the forum so I cannot speak for them, but personally I have no relationship to any of this players on the currunt team. II am your everyday simpple alumni watchinh the team form an outside perspective

[expony18]

Quite frankly I'd take the Bradley Haynes I saw on Friday over all the other high school All-District types of receivers on SMU's roster other than Sanders and Robinson.

throw beasely in there too. and as much as ES I think Robinson will be the best WR of the bunch

[J.T.supporta]

Quite frankly I'd take the Bradley Haynes I saw on Friday over all the other high school All-District types of receivers on SMU's roster other than Sanders and Robinson.

throw beasely in there too. and as much as ES I think Robinson will be the best WR of the bunch

Robinson will have a BIG year.

[kull]

you have to undersrtand that in this offense the receivers absolutely have to think like quarterbacks. They must do this on while on the run, and the presnap read is only for determining man or zone coverage. Further, success is predicated on the quarterback and receivers making the same reads. Usually, a typical play affords 7-10 route options for each reciever post, after review of the Rice game, it is clear JJ is using vanilla packages at this point as only 2-4 route options were used, most of them being routes from the West Coast Offense (bill walsh). Sanders ran a few routes remiscinscant of a Marchibroda offense, he is the most developed route runner. The two wide recievers (X and Z) are deep threats have been adjusted and exposed to the slot position to learn the offense and think like a QB. The same goes for the two slot recievers (W and Y).ted as the X receiver and to the right the Z receiver. 1/2and 3/4 motion was used to determine coverage as per usual, Rice D used a used 2 presnap faces and that confused the OL blocking a little in the second qtr. The recievers need to work on understanding the reads in the flats and on posts must better. They are fine with screens to this point. The slots are ahead of schedule in ability to exploit the middle zones, but the inexperience at QB is limiting that success. Oh yeah, Haynes reads suck at this point. He is ok on scripted plays, but no that gifted a route runner, particularly in disguising his route before the break. Nickle coverage will expose him quickly as a liability. Robinson, has the speed desired but has a knack for finding the soft spots in zone coverage, a must at his post. I wont go on.

[Cadillac]

I wont go on.

Please, do.

I guess this does explain the propensity for using HS QBs as recievers in this offense. Though I suppose that happens a lot no matter where you go.

-CoS

[ponyboy]

you have to undersrtand that in this offense the receivers absolutely have to think like quarterbacks. They must do this on while on the run, and the presnap read is only for determining man or zone coverage. Further, success is predicated on the quarterback and receivers making the same reads. Usually, a typical play affords 7-10 route options for each reciever post, after review of the Rice game, it is clear JJ is using vanilla packages at this point as only 2-4 route options were used, most of them being routes from the West Coast Offense (bill walsh). Sanders ran a few routes remiscinscant of a Marchibroda offense, he is the most developed route runner. The two wide recievers (X and Z) are deep threats have been adjusted and exposed to the slot position to learn the offense and think like a QB. The same goes for the two slot recievers (W and Y).ted as the X receiver and to the right the Z receiver. 1/2and 3/4 motion was used to determine coverage as per usual, Rice D used a used 2 presnap faces and that confused the OL blocking a little in the second qtr. The recievers need to work on understanding the reads in the flats and on posts must better. They are fine with screens to this point. The slots are ahead of schedule in ability to exploit the middle zones, but the inexperience at QB is limiting that success. Oh yeah, Haynes reads suck at this point. He is ok on scripted plays, but no that gifted a route runner, particularly in disguising his route before the break. Nickle coverage will expose him quickly as a liability. Robinson, has the speed desired but has a knack for finding the soft spots in zone coverage, a must at his post. I wont go on.

Great info.

While this is primarily about receivers' responsibilities, it does shed some light on why Willis may have not made the grade. There's a cerebral requirement that he may simply lack -- he may actually not give us the best chance to win right now in this offense.

And good news on Sanders' progress and Robinson's potential.