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Postby ThadFilms » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:48 pm

Stallion wrote:the second interception was tipped by a UCF player before it got to the SMU player and was thrown into triple coverage as stated by the commentator


I don't know what your point is..... I really don't think we spoke about BLM's poor decision making. And that's the nicest way to put it...... but, I really didn't see us talking about that in this thread.


AND - honestly - I do make a point of jacking around on this board in an attempt to keep things lively, but seriously.... the thoughts that (a) everything would be fin this year or (b) that June Jones won;t be able to get it done here are both patently ridiculous.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:54 pm

Thad-stay away from Football talk-I was responding to Bo's mom who tried to claim it was the SMU receivers' fault that he had 3 Ints. NO! Now the pass to the UCF Defensive Lineman was definitely a catchable ball.
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Postby ThadFilms » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:15 pm

Stallion wrote:Thad-stay away from Football talk-I was responding to Bo's mom who tried to claim it was the SMU receivers' fault that he had 3 Ints. NO!



Haha!!!! Nice. Thanks for the tip Stal-man.... believe it or no, I always stick up for you (not that you need me to) when I meet ponyfans. I know you are a true fan, as am I.... for whatever that's worth to you.

I missed the BLM mom, moment... and hell no.... every INT was Bo's fault, and as much as you might ask me to stay away from football talk.... seriously... I have no problem with Bo's mistakes.... everybody (else?) is way way way overreacting, I see a lot with Bo. I'd rather have Willis playing this year BUT I don't think that Bo won't turn out to be darn good for JJ's system.

Am I hacked when he makes poor decisions, yes.... well kind of. I don't know what it is, but I finally feel like we have things in place to make it work. I decided when JJ (in my uneducated opinion, I guess) foolishly decided to bench Willis, I tossed this season out the window. I've actually never done that before, but I said screw it - We have a coach who has done it, and who knows what is needed.

Call me naive, but who cares.... I finally feel extremely confident about this program for the first time since I was a kid. Call me soft for accepting this first year as being a throw away. Call me an a$$-hat for trying to avoid talking football on the board (I have said a thousand times, opinions are like a$$holes, and I have no inside info.).... but never question my love for the Ponies. Not that you were, of course.

My folks found me last game, my mom said that the Ponies needed more fans like me. Well whatever, it's my mom. She also found a TCU grad that game that was rooting for his team with all he had and my mother told him he needed to meet me. (My mom loves sports and loves sports fans, she's the best.) I have no voice at the end of most games, nearly passing out in the parking lot most times. It takes a lot out of you being an SMU fan. Being a real fan.


I hate that SMU fans don't know what to do to cheer on their team. How to get up for the defense, etc. But whatever.



I get on this board for other reasons. To be around other SMU fans. I don't think I need to prove my SMU fandom here, so I don't try to. Because I don't need to. Because I am here.



I am not suggesting that you, Stallion, are questioning my commitment to the Ponies, because I doubt you are... but many jokes are based in some sort of believer truth.... thus, if you want to question my ability to talk football or my fandom then you can take it elsewhere.







BTW - Stal-cup, I really didn't think you were attacking me, sorry if I wnet over the top here. Didn't mean for it to be directed at you..... but I care about SMU football more than is healthy. I try not to talk about it too much here. It's just important for me to be around folks who care about SMU football.


It's weird that I am okay with losses this year. I have never been okay with them before this year. It's been more of a, we're on the right track.... just hang in their now.
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Postby SoCal_Pony » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:49 pm

PoconoPony wrote:Hence, the coaching staff is also forced to compensate for this missing player leadership with 71% of the roster being under-classmen. This situation will be rectified as this team matures and leaders will evolve over time.


Oh will it?????????

SMU football has been perpetually one of the youngest teams in FB over the past 10 years.

It goes something like this…

Coach A recruits players that nobody else wants. Ponyfan posters gush. Coach A loses with these players. Eventually Coach A gets fired. Coach B inherits a team of mis-fits from Coach A. Ponyfans rejoice. Coach B continues the losing tradition…reaction on Ponyfans is ‘give Coach B a few years to develop his own players, after all, Cupboard left bare by departing Coach A’.

Coach B then goes out and recruits players with no other offers. Ponyfans continue to gush….and SMU continues to LOSE.

Here is my take on the current SMU squad…they aren’t very good and it’s not due to lack of experience although that is making them worse.

Let this current group of athletes mature and play together for 3 years and you have a team that still gets trounced by our BCS non-conference opponent and (at BEST) plays .500 ball in a conference we should be dominating.

JJ better recruit some serious JC talent or we are all staring down a 4-year reclamation project with a coach that has a 5-year life.

Want to support a team over the next few years that may actual achieve something???....Go to MOODY.
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Postby orguy » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:08 am

Give coach Jones a break.

What the hell do people on this board expect?

We will be competitive again soon enough. Sorry [deleted] PB is gone. JJ was hired to clean up the mess and make something of this program. No rational person expected results overnight. Look what the guy has to work with in terms of talent.

Time to be patient and work out the kinks.

I have seen enough encouraging signs the last two games to make me optimistic about the future.
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Postby SoCal_Pony » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:18 am

orguy wrote:Sorry [deleted] PB is gone. JJ was hired to clean up the mess and make something of this program. No rational person expected results overnight. Look what the guy has to work with in terms of talent.

Time to be patient and work out the kinks.


I find it ironic that you can interchange PB with MC, MDe and JT....and you can interchange JJ with PB, JT and MDo.

I also think JJ can and will turn this train-wreck around, but unless he gets an infusion of quality JCs it will take at a minimum 3 years.

You are in denial if you think this squad has talent.
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Postby orguy » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:28 am

Failure to communicate.

The "system" man, its the "system"...

Jones never had "talent" at Hawaii either. His system is what gives me hope.

How many CUSA schools have depth and talent? Tulsa? ECU? Both of them are well coached. Where do they land in terms of "talent"? How about Boise State? a 70th ranked recruiting class nationally that is well coached with admittedly subpar "talent". They win year and year out against teams with superior "talent" (witness their first half whooping of Oregon a couple of weeks ago).

What about the Oregon State beating your Trojans? was it talent? or did Rich Riley game plan well and take advantage with his SC reject players? (or maybe it was a case of Trojans quaking at the site of Beaver..)

Coaching plays a huge role.
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Postby orguy » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:36 am

BTW: I'm assuming your the SC/mustang fan poster. Sorry if I have you confused with someone else.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:53 am

I thought 60%+ thought we were going to win last nite? We were told we were dumbasses if we didn't think we were going to win. Rational on Monday thru Saturday seems to mean something different on Saturday Nite.
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Postby redpony » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:57 am

Stallion wrote:I thought 60%+ thought we were going to win last nite?


I thought that we would win. At the end of the first quarter I felt like 'the lights had finally come on' for the offense and defense. Then we had the power outage and as usual came up on the short end of the scoreboard.

As you have often pointed out- this team lacks size, maturity and ability but I believe they (at least most of them) are playing their hearts out. Once they win a couple of games and develop a little confidence then I think they will become over-achievers.

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Postby EastStang » Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:44 am

At least two of the int's were freshman mistakes. The safeties jumped the routes perfectly. My next question is not about excuses for Bo, but about making his job a little easier. While I wasn't at the game those barf colored jerseys of UCF were awful pale (at least on my crappy TV set), could we have gotten away with wearing our blue jerseys under NCAA rules? UCF had white helmets, white pants, and pale vomit colored jerseys with large white numbers. We had white helmets, white pants, and white jerseys. It might have helped our freshman QB see the defenders a little better. More contrast by our team's jersey's might have at least given our QB a millisecond more time to find his receivers and the defenders.
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Postby 03Mustang » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:57 pm

EastStang wrote:At least two of the int's were freshman mistakes. The safeties jumped the routes perfectly. My next question is not about excuses for Bo, but about making his job a little easier. While I wasn't at the game those barf colored jerseys of UCF were awful pale (at least on my crappy TV set), could we have gotten away with wearing our blue jerseys under NCAA rules? UCF had white helmets, white pants, and pale vomit colored jerseys with large white numbers. We had white helmets, white pants, and white jerseys. It might have helped our freshman QB see the defenders a little better. More contrast by our team's jersey's might have at least given our QB a millisecond more time to find his receivers and the defenders.



Talk about a reach!!...come on now.
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Postby redpony » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:43 pm

EastStang wrote:At least two of the int's were freshman mistakes. The safeties jumped the routes perfectly. My next question is not about excuses for Bo, but about making his job a little easier. While I wasn't at the game those barf colored jerseys of UCF were awful pale (at least on my crappy TV set), could we have gotten away with wearing our blue jerseys under NCAA rules? UCF had white helmets, white pants, and pale vomit colored jerseys with large white numbers. We had white helmets, white pants, and white jerseys. It might have helped our freshman QB see the defenders a little better. More contrast by our team's jersey's might have at least given our QB a millisecond more time to find his receivers and the defenders.


Easy solution. Don't play qb's that are color blind. :lol: :lol:

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Postby PK » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:31 pm

I think most (not all) of our players have descent talent, but in most cases they are undersized compared to our competition and in a long tough game that size differential will make a profound difference in the game's outcome.
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Postby Lotus » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:43 pm

Stallion wrote:All 3 Ints were without question Mitchell's fault.
Wrong again. The first one (by Joe Burnett) was a great play made by a great player. He's phenomenal athlete, he jumped in front of the receiver, jumped 624 feet off the ground (or so) and stretched out to snag the ball with his fingertips. Few, if any, other CBs in the country make that pick. Should BLM have thrown it a little higher, or deeper, or to another WR? Sure, in hindsight. But that's a play that happened because Joe Burnett has a long NFL career in front of him. It happens.
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