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Postby HB Pony Dad » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:28 pm

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... atpoll.htm


and the AP Poll is here...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

Both polls finally showing Florida and TT a little lovin!
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Postby bagice » Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:31 pm

Wow,

TCU up to 12 in both polls, too bad they played Oklahoma this year...
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Postby J.T.supporta » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:59 pm

bagice wrote:Wow,

TCU up to 12 in both polls, too bad they played Oklahoma this year...


meaning they wont be in the bcs. since Tulsa, Boise State, and Ball State look like they will all go undefeated
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Postby FroggieFever » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:56 am

J.T.supporta wrote:
bagice wrote:Wow,

TCU up to 12 in both polls, too bad they played Oklahoma this year...


meaning they wont be in the bcs. since Tulsa, Boise State, and Ball State look like they will all go undefeated


We will...if we win out. :) It's called strength of schedule.
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Postby ponyte » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:12 am

Wow, look at all the highly ranked ACC and Big East team. Good thing the BSC Cartel has an automatic BSC bowl bid for its deserving members.
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Postby Corp » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:59 am

FroggieFever wrote:
J.T.supporta wrote:
bagice wrote:Wow,

TCU up to 12 in both polls, too bad they played Oklahoma this year...


meaning they wont be in the bcs. since Tulsa, Boise State, and Ball State look like they will all go undefeated


We will...if we win out. :) It's called strength of schedule.



Vast difference in quality of conferences between MWC and C-USA:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm
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Postby J.T.supporta » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:25 pm

FroggieFever wrote:
J.T.supporta wrote:
bagice wrote:Wow,

TCU up to 12 in both polls, too bad they played Oklahoma this year...


meaning they wont be in the bcs. since Tulsa, Boise State, and Ball State look like they will all go undefeated


We will...if we win out. :) It's called strength of schedule.


strength of schedule isnt included in the BCS anymore.
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Postby EastStang » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:31 pm

If ACC and BE teams keep knocking each other off, they are in jeopardy of not going to a BCS Bowl. One of the fine print things in the new BCS agreement is that if a team is ranked higher than the champion of a conference, they get that conference's bid. Theoretically, you could end up with Tulsa, Utah or TCU, Ball State and Boise State all ranked above the champions of those two conferences. That would mean that perhaps, Utah and Boise State would go to a BCS Bowl instead of the ACC and BE champions. (I won't hold my breath). Let's hope that TCU, BYU and Utah start beating each other so that Tulsa can pass them up. Because then we'd all share in the BCS payday.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:35 pm

EastStang wrote:If ACC and BE teams keep knocking each other off, they are in jeopardy of not going to a BCS Bowl. One of the fine print things in the new BCS agreement is that if a team is ranked higher than the champion of a conference, they get that conference's bid. Theoretically, you could end up with Tulsa, Utah or TCU, Ball State and Boise State all ranked above the champions of those two conferences. That would mean that perhaps, Utah and Boise State would go to a BCS Bowl instead of the ACC and BE champions. (I won't hold my breath). Let's hope that TCU, BYU and Utah start beating each other so that Tulsa can pass them up. Because then we'd all share in the BCS payday.


not saying that i disagree that that is the rule but I think what you mean is, if a Non BCS team is ranked higher than a BCS conference champion, then that nonBCS team can earn a BCS bid.


i might be wrong but i know under the rules its if you are in the top 12 and are a nonBCS team, you get an automatic bid, but if you are in the top 16 and a BCS conference champion is ranked lower than 16, they have a chance at a bid.

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Postby Corp » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:52 pm

EastStang wrote:
Let's hope that TCU, BYU and Utah start beating each other so that Tulsa

can pass them up. Because then we'd all share in the BCS payday.




Tulsa? Not a snowball's chance in hell.
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Postby PonySnob » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:48 pm

Why can't our football program be more like TCU's?
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Postby smupony94 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:52 pm

PonySnob wrote:Why can't our football program be more like TCU's?


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Postby ponyte » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:06 am

EastStang wrote:If ACC and BE teams keep knocking each other off, they are in jeopardy of not going to a BCS Bowl. One of the fine print things in the new BCS agreement is that if a team is ranked higher than the champion of a conference, they get that conference's bid. Theoretically, you could end up with Tulsa, Utah or TCU, Ball State and Boise State all ranked above the champions of those two conferences. That would mean that perhaps, Utah and Boise State would go to a BCS Bowl instead of the ACC and BE champions. (I won't hold my breath). Let's hope that TCU, BYU and Utah start beating each other so that Tulsa can pass them up. Because then we'd all share in the BCS payday.


If the AC and BE don't make a BSC bowl, then count on the computer to have some 'adjustments' made so that the same mistake doesn't happen next year. That is the beauty of the cartel, it only has to deal with a mistake once and it can correct that mistake.
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Postby CA Mustang » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:31 am

The ACC and BE are safe for now: http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility
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Postby PK » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:05 am

Conference Automatic Qualification in Future


The conferences have developed athematical standards of performance which be applied to determine the number of conferences whose champions will automatically qualify for a BCS game after the 2008 and 2009 regular seasons. The champions of no fewer than five conferences and no more than seven conferences will have annual automatic berths.

The standards will be based on results from the 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007 regular seasons, using institutions that are members of the conferences during the 2007 season.

The data will include the following for each conference (1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS standings each year, (2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year and (3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS standings each year.

The standards will not prohibit the champion of any conference that has contracted with a bowl from playing in one of the participating BCS bowls. For example, the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions will, by contract, play in the Rose Bowl every year unless one or both qualifies for the National Championship Game.


Unless I'm missing a conference, the current BCS is made up of six conferences which means there will be an opening for another after this season and the 2009 season. Am I correct? If that is correct I know for a fact that Mountain West is doing everything it can to get BCS status. What is C-USA doing...anything?
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