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by Dwan » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:16 pm
How many of these players did Doh offer?
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by PonyDoh » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:20 pm
papawasamustang wrote:PonyDoh wrote:papawasamustang wrote:PonyDoh wrote:Billy Joe wrote:Let me guess....Rice is outrecruiting SMU in basketball. How many recruits have said no to SMU this season? I lost count weeks ago.
They are recruiting very well nationally, no doubt about it.
Yeah, getting home town hoopster Rogers & although Kazemi plays his prep ball in NC, he lives in Houston(check out his jersey in the attachment on the original post) combined with the other 2 kids gives them a nice 50/50 type class. 2 national kids & 2 local kids. Would love to see that type of balance here someday. Kazemi is from Iran, only been here 6 or 7 months. His handler lives in houston, hence the commitment to Rice. I don't think he's spent 3 weeks in Houston in his life.
Quit trying to spin everything like u know everything. He's lived there since Feb of last year. Bottom line, he lives there, he is staying there to play basketball. Unlike an african prospect that recently signed here, this kid had legit offers from several top programs. Congrats to Rice for keeping him in Houston.
I'm not spinning anything, you are just lying to the masses if you are claiming he's from Houston. He's from Iran and just recently arrived in the states. His family doesn't live here, he barely speaks the language, spent most of May & July on the circuit, and the last 3 months at Patterson. What part of that screams local Houston kid?
“When I first committed to SMU, I thought it would take a couple of years of building. But with these players coming in, we should make a run. We have a lot of heavy hitters. It could get real ugly for a lot of teams we play.â€- Jalen Jones
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by papawasamustang » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:26 pm
I never said he wasn't from Iran.
I said he lives in Houston & that's where he is playing his college basketball. He lives in Houston & could have played anywhere in the country but decided to play @ Rice in Houston.
What's the big deal?
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by PonyDoh » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:42 pm
papawasamustang wrote:I never said he wasn't from Iran.
I said he lives in Houston & that's where he is playing his college basketball. He lives in Houston & could have played anywhere in the country but decided to play @ Rice in Houston.
What's the big deal?
First, its not a big deal and I'm trying to be confrontational. Just w/all the locals vs. national recruiting talk around here, I don't think we should miscategorize the 09 Rice class. Simply, its 4 nationals, one local. The local is a 1 star type. All the difference makers are national, or in Kazemi's case, international players.
FWIW, Kazemi knows NOTHING about american colleges or college ball. He was straight up steered to Rice by his handler. I have an acquantance that interviewed him not too long ago, and said he'd only seen 1 or 2 college games ever, and he believes Memphis was playing. Also, that he really liked That 70's Show a lot, and that's mostly what he wanted to talk about...lol
“When I first committed to SMU, I thought it would take a couple of years of building. But with these players coming in, we should make a run. We have a lot of heavy hitters. It could get real ugly for a lot of teams we play.â€- Jalen Jones
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by jtstang » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:57 pm
PonyDoh wrote:Also, that he really liked That 70's Show a lot, and that's mostly what he wanted to talk about...lol
I knda liked that show too. I can't really remember why though....

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by papawasamustang » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:01 pm
PonyDoh wrote:papawasamustang wrote:I never said he wasn't from Iran.
I said he lives in Houston & that's where he is playing his college basketball. He lives in Houston & could have played anywhere in the country but decided to play @ Rice in Houston.
What's the big deal?
First, its not a big deal and I'm trying to be confrontational. Just w/all the locals vs. national recruiting talk around here, I don't think we should miscategorize the 09 Rice class. Simply, its 4 nationals, one local. The local is a 1 star type. All the difference makers are national, or in Kazemi's case, international players. FWIW, Kazemi knows NOTHING about american colleges or college ball. He was straight up steered to Rice by his handler. I have an acquantance that interviewed him not too long ago, and said he'd only seen 1 or 2 college games ever, and he believes Memphis was playing. Also, that he really liked That 70's Show a lot, and that's mostly what he wanted to talk about...lol
Like I said, the kid lives in Houston & could have played anywhere in the country & he decided to stay in Houston & go to Rice.
Also, Stevie Rogers is considered the 9th best player in Texas & not the 1star type that you mentioned earlier.
Rice has turned their football program around & it appears they are headed in the same direction with their hoops program.
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by PonyDoh » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:00 pm
papawasamustang wrote:http://texashoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1639
Little better than a 1 star don't u think?
Yea, that's considerably better then the scout ranking. Either way, I haven't seen the kid, so I shouldn't have disregarded him as a secondary recruit. He could be the star of the class for all I know, but he'd have to be damn good to be better then Jackson, IMO.
“When I first committed to SMU, I thought it would take a couple of years of building. But with these players coming in, we should make a run. We have a lot of heavy hitters. It could get real ugly for a lot of teams we play.â€- Jalen Jones
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by PonyDoh » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:04 pm
papawasamustang wrote:PonyDoh wrote:papawasamustang wrote:I never said he wasn't from Iran.
I said he lives in Houston & that's where he is playing his college basketball. He lives in Houston & could have played anywhere in the country but decided to play @ Rice in Houston.
What's the big deal?
First, its not a big deal and I'm trying to be confrontational. Just w/all the locals vs. national recruiting talk around here, I don't think we should miscategorize the 09 Rice class. Simply, its 4 nationals, one local. The local is a 1 star type. All the difference makers are national, or in Kazemi's case, international players. FWIW, Kazemi knows NOTHING about american colleges or college ball. He was straight up steered to Rice by his handler. I have an acquantance that interviewed him not too long ago, and said he'd only seen 1 or 2 college games ever, and he believes Memphis was playing. Also, that he really liked That 70's Show a lot, and that's mostly what he wanted to talk about...lol
Like I said, the kid lives in Houston & could have played anywhere in the country & he decided to stay in Houston & go to Rice. Also, Stevie Rogers is considered the 9th best player in Texas & not the 1star type that you mentioned earlier. Rice has turned their football program around & it appears they are headed in the same direction with their hoops program.
He could have played anywhere in the country if he was given a choice, which he wasn't. Never has there been a more blatant steer. Either way, I'm all for it, so go Rice.
Its a very very good class. You are reaching if you are saying Kazemi is from Houston, though. That's all. Its a private school class, by a known commodity, that went national, for the most part. That's what Doh is doing, w/o the same success in 09, unfortunately.
“When I first committed to SMU, I thought it would take a couple of years of building. But with these players coming in, we should make a run. We have a lot of heavy hitters. It could get real ugly for a lot of teams we play.â€- Jalen Jones
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by MustangIcon » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:07 pm
papawasamustang wrote:http://texashoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1639
Little better than a 1 star don't u think?
Lets not forget you have touted Tim Frazier as the #9 player in the state for quite some time. I don't have access to TexasHoops but its one or the other and on this list Frazier doesn't crack the top 10.
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by papawasamustang » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:17 pm
MustangIcon wrote:papawasamustang wrote:http://texashoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1639
Little better than a 1 star don't u think?
Lets not forget you have touted Tim Frazier as the #9 player in the state for quite some time. I don't have access to TexasHoops but its one or the other and on this list Frazier doesn't crack the top 10.
http://texashoops.rivals.com/viewprospe ... _key=68201
Good point. I don't make this stuff up. Its what Texashoops has them BOTH ranked. I don't get it either. However, lets just say that they are both 3 stars & top 15 type players in the state.
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by EastStang » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:50 pm
Moving to CUSA meant that schools were going to have to step up their recruiting to get into even the same Universe as Memphis. Rice, Tulsa, SMU and UTEP are trying to step up to the plate with known hires and improved recruiting. UCF and Marshall are trying to improve as well. I foresee that in ten years CUSA will be a marquee basketball conference again unless the Big East splits (which I view as highly unlikely by the way).
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by MustangIcon » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:00 pm
papawasamustang wrote:MustangIcon wrote:papawasamustang wrote:http://texashoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1639
Little better than a 1 star don't u think?
Lets not forget you have touted Tim Frazier as the #9 player in the state for quite some time. I don't have access to TexasHoops but its one or the other and on this list Frazier doesn't crack the top 10. http://texashoops.rivals.com/viewprospe ... _key=68201Good point. I don't make this stuff up. Its what Texashoops has them BOTH ranked. I don't get it either. However, lets just say that they are both 3 stars & top 15 type players in the state.
I'm just giving you a hard time bc I'm annoyed by the whole local/national player discussion to a degree. My basic belief is...
I would love to get top local players. But, currently we can get BETTER players on the national scene than we can locally. Therefore it makes sense to me to get the best players we can, regardless where they come from, rather than settle for a lesser player who may be local.
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by papawasamustang » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:23 pm
MustangIcon wrote:papawasamustang wrote:MustangIcon wrote:papawasamustang wrote:http://texashoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1639
Little better than a 1 star don't u think?
Lets not forget you have touted Tim Frazier as the #9 player in the state for quite some time. I don't have access to TexasHoops but its one or the other and on this list Frazier doesn't crack the top 10. http://texashoops.rivals.com/viewprospe ... _key=68201Good point. I don't make this stuff up. Its what Texashoops has them BOTH ranked. I don't get it either. However, lets just say that they are both 3 stars & top 15 type players in the state.
I'm just giving you a hard time bc I'm annoyed by the whole local/national player discussion to a degree. My basic belief is... I would love to get top local players. But, currently we can get BETTER players on the national scene than we can locally. Therefore it makes sense to me to get the best players we can, regardless where they come from, rather than settle for a lesser player who may be local.
I agree with you. I'm just saying that there is no reason we shouldn't be landing SOME local talent. If that's the way it has to be so be it. I'm just tired of all the excuses why we can't get a kid from Duncanville, Plano West, Arlington Grace, etc.
There is a tremendous amount of talent in this area/state. I'm just tired of all the excuses why we can't recruit locally.
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by Billy Joe » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:30 pm
Bottom line: SMU basketball has underachieved and done less with more than most programs in the country. When was the last time SMU basketball was relevant? When was the last time SMU had a winning conference record? Our competition is still out recruiting us and many of you simply make excuses for it. It is the primary reason we lose. How long does Doh get around here? We built one of the nicest basketball facilities in the country. I expect better results with recruiting and on the court than what is currently happening. No more excuses.
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