1 win seems like a lock now...

[George S. Patton]

this is BIG news...anyoen with any sort of brains had no expectations of a winning season this year. This year had NOTHING to do with wins and loses.

It was about laying the groundwork for the future. And these suspensions clearly show that maybe we are not going in the right direction...this is BIG news

How do you know that these alleged suspensions mean we're not going in the right direction?

That's a ridiculous response. And it depends on what they allegedly did to warrant the suspension.

You come off sounding like you know nothing about the team concept. No one -- regardless of ability -- is bigger than the team. And if they screwed by definition of the coaches, then it's THEIR FAULT!

[ClickClack]

this is BIG news...anyoen with any sort of brains had no expectations of a winning season this year. This year had NOTHING to do with wins and loses.

It was about laying the groundwork for the future. And these suspensions clearly show that maybe we are not going in the right direction...this is BIG news

How do you know that these alleged suspensions mean we're not going in the right direction?

That's a ridiculous response. And it depends on what they allegedly did to warrant the suspension.

You come off sounding like you know nothing about the team concept. No one -- regardless of ability -- is bigger than the team. And if they screwed by definition of the coaches, then it's THEIR FAULT!

Of course it means we are not going in the right direction..i am very aware of the team concept and no one is bigger than the team. But how is it positive when our two star recievers and team leaders are behaving in a way that warrants suspension? They should be leading on and off the field and setting an example for other players..not behaivng in a manner that gets them suspended!

[jtstang]

One of the Hawaii watchers needs to expound on Jones's suspension practices at UH so we can gauge the seriousness of the alleged crimes.

[George S. Patton]

this is BIG news...anyoen with any sort of brains had no expectations of a winning season this year. This year had NOTHING to do with wins and loses.

It was about laying the groundwork for the future. And these suspensions clearly show that maybe we are not going in the right direction...this is BIG news

How do you know that these alleged suspensions mean we're not going in the right direction?

That's a ridiculous response. And it depends on what they allegedly did to warrant the suspension.

You come off sounding like you know nothing about the team concept. No one -- regardless of ability -- is bigger than the team. And if they screwed by definition of the coaches, then it's THEIR FAULT!

Of course it means we are not going in the right direction..i am very aware of the team concept and no one is bigger than the team. But how is it positive when our two star recievers and team leaders are behaving in a way that warrants suspension? They should be leading on and off the field and setting an example for other players..not behaivng in a manner that gets them suspended!

Well, how were they behaving? You're the one floating this stuff out there and talking circles -- big in generalities and short in specifics. It leads to more confusion and distrust in what you're saying.

If you mean not going in the right direction because they went off the reservation because they did not comply with the program's rules, then sure. I would classify that as a hiccup.

If you mean not going in the right direction for now and ever more, then that's a little dramatic.

Reading some of your stuff, where's McDonald Carey when we need him?

"Like Sands through the hourglass. So are the days of lives.''

This is not life and death. Cut out drama queen business.

[mathman]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

[jtstang]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

Good point, but I say if we're going to have suspensions anyway, let's go in the same direction UT is going....

[mathman]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

Good point, but I say if we're going to have suspensions anyway, let's go in the same direction UT is going....

I could live with that.

[ClickClack]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

Come on, lets be serious. how could you compare the two?

A team that is already established as a national powerhouse and has boatloads of talent coming in every year and a team that has not been to a bowl game in at least 20 years who gets very few quality recruits each year and needs every advantage it can get and can not afford talented players being suspended...

oranges and apples my man

[OC Mustang]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

Come on, lets be serious. how could you compare the two?

A team that is already established as a national powerhouse and has boatloads of talent coming in every year and a team that has not been to a bowl game in at least 20 years who gets very few quality recruits each year and needs every advantage it can get and can not afford talented players being suspended...

oranges and apples my man

Specifics, dude. That is what the rest of us want. If you can't provide them, then say why. If you can and won't, then you are a troll.

[mathman]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

Come on, lets be serious. how could you compare the two?

A team that is already established as a national powerhouse and has boatloads of talent coming in every year and a team that has not been to a bowl game in at least 20 years who gets very few quality recruits each year and needs every advantage it can get and can not afford talented players being suspended...

oranges and apples my man

So there are different definitions for "suspension". On a winning team it means nothing, but a team that hasn't won in forever it means the sky is falling. Logic is foriegn to you, isn't it?

[George S. Patton]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

Come on, lets be serious. how could you compare the two?

A team that is already established as a national powerhouse and has boatloads of talent coming in every year and a team that has not been to a bowl game in at least 20 years who gets very few quality recruits each year and needs every advantage it can get and can not afford talented players being suspended...

oranges and apples my man

I've got rhythm. I've got music. I've got drama. Who could ask for anything more?

[ClickClack]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

Come on, lets be serious. how could you compare the two?

A team that is already established as a national powerhouse and has boatloads of talent coming in every year and a team that has not been to a bowl game in at least 20 years who gets very few quality recruits each year and needs every advantage it can get and can not afford talented players being suspended...

oranges and apples my man

So there are different definitions for "suspension". On a winning team it means nothing, but a team that hasn't won in forever it means the sky is falling. Logic is foriegn to you, isn't it?

No, there are not different definitions of suspension. But, a team like Texas has anohter stud athlete ready to play...at SMU we do not even have enough d1 quality athletes on the field as it is..so yes, a suspension can have varrying degrees of impact when your back up has no buisness being on the field and you are trying to at least put a few wins together for recruiting purposes and carrying momentum to the offseason for next year.

[George S. Patton]

JT, I guess you know this means UT hasn't been going in the right direction these last few years. All the suspensions and such.

Come on, lets be serious. how could you compare the two?

A team that is already established as a national powerhouse and has boatloads of talent coming in every year and a team that has not been to a bowl game in at least 20 years who gets very few quality recruits each year and needs every advantage it can get and can not afford talented players being suspended...

oranges and apples my man

So there are different definitions for "suspension". On a winning team it means nothing, but a team that hasn't won in forever it means the sky is falling. Logic is foriegn to you, isn't it?

No, there are not different definitions of suspension. But, a team like Texas has anohter stud athlete ready to play...at SMU we do not even have enough d1 quality athletes on the field as it is..so yes, a suspension can have varrying degrees of impact when your back up has no buisness being on the field and you are trying to at least put a few wins together for recruiting purposes and carrying momentum to the offseason for next year.

As Roy Orbison once sang: It's Over! It's Over! It's Over!

[SMU2007]

you guys will believe anything - no one is suspended. this guy is just trying to [deleted] people off.

[mathman]

But it still doesn't mean we are going in the wrong direction. It means some kids messed up. Like they do on teams across the country every month. Will it hurt us worse than it would hurt Texas? Of course. Does it mean we need to change directions? No. JJ knows where he wants to go and how he wants to get there. Either get on the bus or go home.