New Julius Francis Video

[Charleston Pony]

any impact "big" has so many options that we are still a long ways from realistically expecting to land those guys. Will have to win with guys like Francis before we start competing for impact "bigs".

When I say he looked to me like a good replacement for Bamba, I look at Bamba and his 9 points, 8 rebounds and almost 3 blocked shots per game and figure he's a pretty solid contributor to this team as a senior. I think Francis may be a little farther along in his development and while I don't expect him to be (as a FR) what Bamba is as a senior, I think he will be ahead of Bamba in his development.

If Doherty can recruit some athletic 6-8 & 6-9 guys, I am hopeful that Francis becomes part of a "big" lineup and that he becomes a guy who can block/alter shots and pull down some boards while playing fewer minutes than we currently have to give Bamba. We are in trouble f we have to rely on him fora significant part of our scoring...jut as we are nowrelying on Bamba to score in double figures for this team to be successful

[Stallion]

that's not necessarily true-there are plenty of programs that recruit very well with building programs. Take a look about 100 miles South. It may not be easy but a Coach who can close deals with quality recruits gets it done. You'll find if you build with a team of sleepers that you may have a different coach in 3-4 years and you are right back where you were. We didn't hire Jones and Doherty to mold a bunch of sleepers into a winning program. Part of the reason you pay the amounts we paid are to get a Coach with the persona and recruiting ability to recruit top players. That's a major part of the job description-and they know that.

[PoconoPony]

[Stallion---Part of the reason you pay the amounts we paid are to get a Coach with the persona and recruiting ability to recruit top players. That's a major part of the job description-and they know that.[/quote]


Yes, Yes, Yes.

[PonyDoh]

Going 'big' in CUSA doesn't make much sense to me anyway. i'd much rather have active, live bodied, tough interior players, that are 6'7 or 6'8 that are efficient around the cup, then develop true bigs.

[Charleston Pony]

well, at least our bball coaches now have improved facilities to sell recruits, and after Memphis' run to the finals last year, I don't think conference affiliation holds us back. The single biggest hurdle our coaches have too deal with in recruiting is our game day atmosphere and the fact that very few care about SMU athletics. Dallas/SMU sports fans are spoiled because they have lots of options. Baylor supports the Bears because what else does a sports fan in Waco have?

Doherty has had only 2 full recruiting classes and yes...some of those guys will finish school somewhere other than at SMU, but I still think he's the guy who is going to get it done. Let's just not expect miracles and for him to pyll in elite players just yeat because those guys want more "love" than the 1500 SMU brings out to Moody.

I just want to see year over year improvement from Doherty's team and by next year, the roster will be pretty much his.

[LA_Mustang]

that's not necessarily true-there are plenty of programs that recruit very well with building programs. Take a look about 100 miles South.

anyone see Quincy Acy's (freshman - Mesquite Horn) line last night against Okie St - 17 pts, 12 boards and 3 blocks...first start of the season I believe. Through 17 games he is shooting 76% from the field! He may end up being the best player Drew has landed at Baylor and he got him from right under our nose.

[Stallion]

Baylor has got some athletes.

[StangBry]

that's not necessarily true-there are plenty of programs that recruit very well with building programs. Take a look about 100 miles South.

anyone see Quincy Acy's (freshman - Mesquite Horn) line last night against Okie St - 17 pts, 12 boards and 3 blocks...first start of the season I believe. Through 17 games he is shooting 76% from the field! He may end up being the best player Drew has landed at Baylor and he got him from right under our nose.

yeah i wish we would have got darrell arthur and lamarcus aldridge too

[LA_Mustang]

yeah i wish we would have got darrell arthur and lamarcus aldridge too

big difference.....they went to basketball powers - KU and UT respectively. Acy went to Baylor - a school we should be able to recruit with

[StangBry]

yeah i wish we would have got darrell arthur and lamarcus aldridge too

big difference.....they went to basketball powers - KU and UT respectively. Acy went to Baylor - a school we should be able to recruit with

Not anymore, theyre ranked and in the big 12 - not to mention they're winning. not really many perks that favor smu over baylor nowadays.

[Stallion]

but that's not the point-the point is that Baylor signed National competitive recruiting classes for several years when they were one of the worst programs in the country and definitely the Big 12. Several observers on this board told you it was coming-it was just a matter of time. Recruit well for at least 3 years and count to 3 or 4 from the first good class.

[papawasamustang]

but that's not the point-the point is that Baylor signed National competitive recruiting classes for several years when they were one of the worst programs in the country and definitely the Big 12. Several observers on this board told you it was coming-it was just a matter of time. Recruit well for at least 3 years and count to 3 or 4 from the first good class.

Baylor is on several of the TOP recruits in the country for 09, 10 & 11.
Drew is doing an outstanding job & the pipeline is well in place. I see the same thing starting to brew over in Cowtown. On the flipside, I'm not impressed with what young Knight is doing in Lubbock.

[mathman]

but that's not the point-the point is that Baylor signed National competitive recruiting classes for several years when they were one of the worst programs in the country and definitely the Big 12. Several observers on this board told you it was coming-it was just a matter of time. Recruit well for at least 3 years and count to 3 or 4 from the first good class.

Baylor is on several of the TOP recruits in the country for 09, 10 & 11.
Drew is doing an outstanding job & the pipeline is well in place. I see the same thing starting to brew over in Cowtown. On the flipside, I'm not impressed with what young Knight is doing in Lubbock.

I agree with most of what you said but I think the jury is still out on Christian at TCU. He is an excellent coach but really don't see the pipeline you are referring to. He signed Butler from Duncanville in the 08 class but the kid only had offers from SFA and UTA. He got the Moss kid in the same 08 class after the kid got a release from Kent State. Didn't show any other offers but he might have committed early. The only other high school kid with any rating at all in that class was two star Logan Lancon who had no other offers. I think the star of that class was Zvonko Buljan, a JC kid, who had offers from St. Johns and Colorado State. He has only signed one for the 09 class so far but he is a good one. Garlon Green. But he is from Missouri City, Tx.
I think the thing he has done that Doh should have done is get immediate help via the JC route. Big mistake on Doh's part there. And again, not saying Christian isn't getting it done, just don't see any pipeline at all yet.

[papawasamustang]

http://www.digitalsports.com/video/type ... 85549.aspx

Here's a couple of recent video clips of our future big man. Check out the "dream shake" & the "finger wave".
He's only been playing BB for 3 years so I'm excited to see him
develop into the premier big man in CUSA

[papawasamustang]

but that's not the point-the point is that Baylor signed National competitive recruiting classes for several years when they were one of the worst programs in the country and definitely the Big 12. Several observers on this board told you it was coming-it was just a matter of time. Recruit well for at least 3 years and count to 3 or 4 from the first good class.

Baylor is on several of the TOP recruits in the country for 09, 10 & 11.
Drew is doing an outstanding job & the pipeline is well in place. I see the same thing starting to brew over in Cowtown. On the flipside, I'm not impressed with what young Knight is doing in Lubbock.

I agree with most of what you said but I think the jury is still out on Christian at TCU. He is an excellent coach but really don't see the pipeline you are referring to. He signed Butler from Duncanville in the 08 class but the kid only had offers from SFA and UTA. He got the Moss kid in the same 08 class after the kid got a release from Kent State. Didn't show any other offers but he might have committed early. The only other high school kid with any rating at all in that class was two star Logan Lancon who had no other offers. I think the star of that class was Zvonko Buljan, a JC kid, who had offers from St. Johns and Colorado State. He has only signed one for the 09 class so far but he is a good one. Garlon Green. But he is from Missouri City, Tx.
I think the thing he has done that Doh should have done is get immediate help via the JC route. Big mistake on Doh's part there. And again, not saying Christian isn't getting it done, just don't see any pipeline at all yet.

The pipeline comment was more geared toward BU but I am starting to see alot of really positive things @ TCU.
Off to a 3-1 start in conference & 12-6 W-L record with some nice road @W's.
I think what's going on over there in year 1 is what we where hoping for around here. We are in year 3 & I like what's going on there better.