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Postby EastStang » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:13 pm

I think the better argument is with the BE. WVa., Pitt, Rutgers, Cincy, Louisville, USF, Syracuse, and UConn have not historically been world beaters and certainly not this year. If the MWC could get a series of games each year with BE teams, they could build an argument. BYU vs. UConn. TCU vs. Pitt., Utah vs. Cincy, AFA vs. Rutgers, Wyoming vs. Syracuse and so forth. You'd probably end up with the MWC winning a large portion of the games. Heck, if I were the MWC I'd even allow most of the games to be on the road. BYU should travel east now and then anyway to keep its eastern LDS members happy.
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Postby Corp » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:03 pm

EastStang wrote:
If the MWC could get a series of games each year with BE teams,

BYU vs. UConn, TCU vs. Pitt., Utah vs. Cincy, AFA vs. Rutgers. You'd

probably end up with the MWC winning a large portion of the games.



True, but the BE has little or no interest in scheduling a series of

games with the MWC or any other strong non-BCS teams, where

they are likely to be on the receiving end of a sever [deleted] kicking.

It's simply not in their best interest...old boy. 8)
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Postby Water Pony » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:34 pm

I have a better idea. If the BCS must survive, why not substract the BE? Never thought is was deserving in the first place. Then you have 5 BCS conferences with two slots for non-BCS, if they are worthly.
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Postby Charleston Pony » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:30 pm

Water Pony wrote:I have a better idea. If the BCS must survive, why not substract the BE? Never thought is was deserving in the first place. Then you have 5 BCS conferences with two slots for non-BCS, if they are worthly.



Why pick on just the Big East? ACC wasn't any more deserving this year than the Big East. MWC was strong and clearly deserving of a place at the table this year, but doesn't mean they will be next year. More than anything, the crowd Utah brought to the Sugar Bowl will cause everyone to take notice.
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Postby Pony Soup » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:49 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:
Water Pony wrote:I have a better idea. If the BCS must survive, why not substract the BE? Never thought is was deserving in the first place. Then you have 5 BCS conferences with two slots for non-BCS, if they are worthly.



Why pick on just the Big East? ACC wasn't any more deserving this year than the Big East. MWC was strong and clearly deserving of a place at the table this year, but doesn't mean they will be next year. More than anything, the crowd Utah brought to the Sugar Bowl will cause everyone to take notice.


Did they not get a seat at the table this year?
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Postby deepellumfrog » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:51 am

Pony Soup wrote:
Charleston Pony wrote:
Water Pony wrote:I have a better idea. If the BCS must survive, why not substract the BE? Never thought is was deserving in the first place. Then you have 5 BCS conferences with two slots for non-BCS, if they are worthly.



Why pick on just the Big East? ACC wasn't any more deserving this year than the Big East. MWC was strong and clearly deserving of a place at the table this year, but doesn't mean they will be next year. More than anything, the crowd Utah brought to the Sugar Bowl will cause everyone to take notice.


Did they not get a seat at the table this year?


Depends if the table is a BCS game or the championship game.
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Postby Pony Soup » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:04 am

deepellumfrog wrote:
Pony Soup wrote:
Charleston Pony wrote:
Water Pony wrote:I have a better idea. If the BCS must survive, why not substract the BE? Never thought is was deserving in the first place. Then you have 5 BCS conferences with two slots for non-BCS, if they are worthly.



Why pick on just the Big East? ACC wasn't any more deserving this year than the Big East. MWC was strong and clearly deserving of a place at the table this year, but doesn't mean they will be next year. More than anything, the crowd Utah brought to the Sugar Bowl will cause everyone to take notice.


Did they not get a seat at the table this year?


Depends if the table is a BCS game or the championship game.


Ha. Why dont you make some field goals before you go talking woulda shoulda coulda for another team. Last time MWC knocked off a top 2 team they followed up with a loss to the SMU Mustangs, 21-10.
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Postby deepellumfrog » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:31 am

Pony Soup wrote:
deepellumfrog wrote:
Pony Soup wrote:
Charleston Pony wrote:
Water Pony wrote:I have a better idea. If the BCS must survive, why not substract the BE? Never thought is was deserving in the first place. Then you have 5 BCS conferences with two slots for non-BCS, if they are worthly.



Why pick on just the Big East? ACC wasn't any more deserving this year than the Big East. MWC was strong and clearly deserving of a place at the table this year, but doesn't mean they will be next year. More than anything, the crowd Utah brought to the Sugar Bowl will cause everyone to take notice.


Did they not get a seat at the table this year?


Depends if the table is a BCS game or the championship game.


Ha. Why dont you make some field goals before you go talking woulda shoulda coulda for another team. Last time MWC knocked off a top 2 team they followed up with a loss to the SMU Mustangs, 21-10.


Come on man, that was 2005. We won 11 games last year. Congrats I guess, you've won 12 since that seminal win over TCU IN 2005!!
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Postby EastStang » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:31 am

The BCS needs 61 teams on the FBS football council to have sufficient votes to block a playoff. They currently have 63. If they took the BE out, then there would be more non-BCS teams than BCS teams and a playoff system could immediately be voted in. I agree, the BE is no better than the MWC or in my view CUSA (and if you compare markets CUSA and BE are about even). (WV, Orl/TB, Dal/NJ, Pitt/Hou, NO/Ciny, Memphis/Syr., El Paso/Hartford). However, the BE vs. MWC in television is lights out against the MWC. I suspect that ECU and Cincy would have been a great game this year, or Tulsa/Cincy for that matter. So, the reason the BE is in the BCS is historical rather than real and for political reasons after the ACC raid. I agree that the ACC is not much better than the BE. And the fact that BC and VT have been pretty dominant since they arrived shows how toothless the ACC really is. Obviously, FSU, Miami, VT, GT and Clemson should come back to being very strong programs as history has shown them to be over the last 20 years. But the old ACC, MD, UVA, UNC, NCS, WF, Duke will never be much better in football than they are now.
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Postby Pony Soup » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:38 pm

deepellumfrog wrote:
Pony Soup wrote:
deepellumfrog wrote:
Pony Soup wrote:
Charleston Pony wrote:
Water Pony wrote:I have a better idea. If the BCS must survive, why not substract the BE? Never thought is was deserving in the first place. Then you have 5 BCS conferences with two slots for non-BCS, if they are worthly.



Why pick on just the Big East? ACC wasn't any more deserving this year than the Big East. MWC was strong and clearly deserving of a place at the table this year, but doesn't mean they will be next year. More than anything, the crowd Utah brought to the Sugar Bowl will cause everyone to take notice.


Did they not get a seat at the table this year?


Depends if the table is a BCS game or the championship game.


Ha. Why dont you make some field goals before you go talking woulda shoulda coulda for another team. Last time MWC knocked off a top 2 team they followed up with a loss to the SMU Mustangs, 21-10.


Come on man, that was 2005. We won 11 games last year. Congrats I guess, you've won 12 since that seminal win over TCU IN 2005!!


Oh yeah, you MWC teams are the best in the country and should have played for the title. Hope you realize that is a complete joke, which is about what i'd expect from someone who posts like this on another school's board. I don't really care about the win in 2005, just suggesting you put a brake on the MWC GOT SCREWED rhetoric.

The current system obviously blows but there is no scenario that would merit utah playing in the title game this year, regardless of whether MWC was in the BCS or not.

As for you, stop with the bitterness. Frogs are right there, just cant seem to get it done week in and week out. Most of us just hope to double our win count next year.
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Postby deepellumfrog » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:21 am

Pony Soup wrote:
deepellumfrog wrote:
Pony Soup wrote:
deepellumfrog wrote:
Pony Soup wrote:
Charleston Pony wrote:
Water Pony wrote:I have a better idea. If the BCS must survive, why not substract the BE? Never thought is was deserving in the first place. Then you have 5 BCS conferences with two slots for non-BCS, if they are worthly.



Why pick on just the Big East? ACC wasn't any more deserving this year than the Big East. MWC was strong and clearly deserving of a place at the table this year, but doesn't mean they will be next year. More than anything, the crowd Utah brought to the Sugar Bowl will cause everyone to take notice.


Did they not get a seat at the table this year?


Depends if the table is a BCS game or the championship game.


Ha. Why dont you make some field goals before you go talking woulda shoulda coulda for another team. Last time MWC knocked off a top 2 team they followed up with a loss to the SMU Mustangs, 21-10.


Come on man, that was 2005. We won 11 games last year. Congrats I guess, you've won 12 since that seminal win over TCU IN 2005!!


Oh yeah, you MWC teams are the best in the country and should have played for the title. Hope you realize that is a complete joke, which is about what i'd expect from someone who posts like this on another school's board. I don't really care about the win in 2005, just suggesting you put a brake on the MWC GOT SCREWED rhetoric.

The current system obviously blows but there is no scenario that would merit utah playing in the title game this year, regardless of whether MWC was in the BCS or not.

As for you, stop with the bitterness. Frogs are right there, just cant seem to get it done week in and week out. Most of us just hope to double our win count next year.


2 is OK, but 3- is a magic number....
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Postby Pony Soup » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:58 pm

lets not get ahead of ourselves now!
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