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Postby Stallion » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:03 pm

looks like about 11 of our recruits shrunk as well-some are listed by SMU even below Rivals verified heights(Collins, Gamble and Johnson)

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content ... iting.html
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Postby SMU21TCU10 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:22 pm

yeah i saw the 5 foot 8 on Gamble.
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Postby SMU21TCU10 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:25 pm

Henderson shrunk 2 inches also
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Postby expony18 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:27 pm

good thing JJ doesn't rely on Rivals and Scout
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Postby SMU21TCU10 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:38 pm

I wonder if most coaches completely ignore the online rankings or if there is some who use those rankings a lot when evaluating.
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Postby ponyte » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:05 pm

I would be shocked if the coaches relied on any scouting board. Most have had a lot of film reviewed and person meetings by the bunches.
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Postby mrydel » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:32 pm

I just heard a bit of Petrino's PC. He was describing one kid and said he was 6'4" 230 lbs. Then he stated that the kid actually weighed a little less when they had him on campus and thought he actually weighed 229. He seemed very serious.
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Postby SMU21TCU10 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:01 pm

mrydel wrote:I just heard a bit of Petrino's PC. He was describing one kid and said he was 6'4" 230 lbs. Then he stated that the kid actually weighed a little less when they had him on campus and thought he actually weighed 229. He seemed very serious.


No sarcasm in his voice at all?
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Postby mrydel » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:56 pm

SMU21TCU10 wrote:
mrydel wrote:I just heard a bit of Petrino's PC. He was describing one kid and said he was 6'4" 230 lbs. Then he stated that the kid actually weighed a little less when they had him on campus and thought he actually weighed 229. He seemed very serious.


No sarcasm in his voice at all?


Nope. Actually I think he was thinking of someone else and looked at his notes while he was talking and read the 229. If anything he sounded a little confused.
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Postby Horseshoe » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:19 pm

Stallion wrote:looks like about 11 of our recruits shrunk as well-some are listed by SMU even below Rivals verified heights(Collins, Gamble and Johnson)
Wait - you mean rivals exaggerates? They're not accurate 100 percent of the time? Staggering!

SMU21TCU10 wrote:I wonder if most coaches completely ignore the online rankings or if there is some who use those rankings a lot when evaluating.
You can't be serious. Say you're a head coach - you walk into an assistant coach's office and he says you should recruit some kid .... based on what a computer geek who has never seen the kid - and is not an expert evaluator of talent - says. Wouldn't you fire that assistant immediately? I don't know if I would, but I'd think about it. Coaches get paid a damn good salary, and I'm pretty sure it's not so they can sit behind their desks and read the pearls of wisdom of some computer nerds who can't tell a facemask from a catcher's mask.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:29 pm

Rivals and Scout verify the kids that go to their camp-its the High School Coaches and players who exagerrate. Just don't trust an unverfied height or weight because they are wrong 2/3rds of the time. Don't blame that on Rivals.

All these Coaches that say they don't pay attention to Rivals actually subscribe to their services. I agree they could care less about their rankings but they do provide valuable information about what the kid is thinking-majors, academic interests, who is involved in the decision-Mother, Father, Girlfriend, what their looking for in a school etc. And sometimes they may provide some information that might spark some interest. I guarantee you the Monday that a Player dominates one of their camps and its reported then the kid may have 5-6 schools check them out in the next week. It happened to the Peace, the Trice kid and many others. I'm sure they consult the videos too until they get the game film(which is preferrable because it has positive and negative plays.
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Postby smupony94 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:30 pm

SMU21TCU10 wrote:Henderson shrunk 2 inches also


I shrink whenever I take a cold shower
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