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Jordan Johnson not happy...Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower
Yeah. I am guessing a few more are cut by the time practice starts in August
People get so bent out of shape. I have no doubt that some or all of these kids are upset, but I see no reason to suspect that JJ has exceeded his powers in dropping them from the program. There is certainly more to the running of JJ's program than a "three-strike" rule. Very little success would come from such a simplistic plan. He has all the tools to control the program. He has the backing of the AD, who seems to have the backing of the school, and frankly, we should all be very happy that this is the case. A couple of years of this and we will have a program which gets the best out of the kids. And given that we are getting a higher standard of recruit, that will translate into great strides being made on the field.
I agree. It has taken JJ one season to figure out what he inherited and what needed to be changed. I do not think spring training last year was enough to make these assessments especially with a new staff just becoming familiar with the players plus the difficulties of installing new offensive and defensive systems. This past season gave him a realistic overview of the situation and what needed to be done. These changes were necessary; however, I might question the timing. He could have easily made these changes after the season/semester and saved the $$$$ on this spring semester's tuitions. I guess he showed some class by keeping these kids this semester to help them find them other programs and give them time for the transition. My only opportunity last season to personally contact and speak with people close to the program was during the Navy game. My contacts with parents of the frosh left me with the very distinct impression at that time that there was a great division transpiring between the frosh and many of the upperclassmen. It was clear to me, although the parents would not out right say it, that the frosh had bought into JJ and his system, were personally bonding and had winning attitudes from their HS backgrounds and personal character. At the same time, many of the upperclassment were ambivilant, had poor attitudes and were at odds with the frosh. The frosh simply did not have the maturity or experience to directly confront many of the upperclassmen which caused them to support one another and maintain some distance from the upperclassmen. ( I cited on another thread on this board a situation in which the Daily Campus wrote an article wherein Cole Beasley was blamed for the Houston loss when he failed to catch a potientially winning TD. The frosh as a group were so incensed that they combed the campus, collected and destroyed every copy of the Daily Campus in support of Beasley. I never heard that they received any support from the upperclassmen or where any upperclassman stood up and challenged the Daily Campus or supported Beasley.) Unfortunately, no upperclass leaders emerged or stepped up to help JJ and the losing complicated the whole situation. As a result, I agree with of JJ's action in these dismissals and belive, as many on this board believe, that he could easily have taken more drastic action. This is the only way to advance the program and establish the attitudes and directions necessary for a winning program. Long live JJ.
Good post. The only thing worse than our losing football tradition over the last 20 years is the loser attitude that so many associated with the university have accepted (and in some cases embraced) as a result.
JJ has said on several occasions that there was/is a major issue with the culture in the locker room that needed to change - hopefully this will be a big step in the right direction. Now we just need a culture change with Biff and Muffy on campus and we can start drawing better and keeping the stands full after halftime.
The student body thing concerned me during my time at SMU as well. We have too many frat-tastic douchewads wearing lime green pants and a popped collar Lacoste shirt and stuck up barbie dolls that couldn't give a rats [deleted] about athletics. What few students we do have that care haven't been given a product that they can feel proud of. Once we start winning and going to games becomes the thing to do on campus, we will see the students coming back in droves.
Back off Warchild seriously.
Good post, but I disagree with letting them stay in the weight room, locker room, spring camp etc... Why? June has decided, it's not in the best interest of the team to keep them. They would be taking away valuable teaching time and reps, from the players that will be here next year. Look at our record from the last twenty years, this program doesn't need a tune up, it needs a complete overhaul. June Jones and Steve Orsini, were brought to SMU to change the results from the past, let them do what they were hired to do. There are things as fans, that we can do to help, join the Mustang Club (Stallion did), buy tickets (and go to the games), and get some some Mustang gear on, because things are changing!
I agree. In three years if our team is as exciting as Hawaii's 06 or 07 team our stadium will be packed. When it is working, JJ's run and shoot is the coolest offense to watch
Just watched part 2 of the interview with Vic Viloria over on ponystampede. He basically comes out and says that we're replaced people who didn't care with people are do care. I'm sure these guys getting cut didn't have the right attitude.
http://smu.scout.com/2/839428.html
Model T, like I told Turner, unless we start winning, all we will have are Ken and Barbies apply, that's not the school I went to...
Mex,
I graduated in 2006 and saw four of the absolute worst years of college football imaginable. My senior year we were literally a yard away from a bowl game and couldn't get it done against Rice. The hiring of June Jones has brought many of the younger alums back into being interested in SMU football. However, we have an overabundance of disinterested rich kids who have better things to do than support their school and team. The only way to get these kids interested is to make the game the place to be on Saturdays. I have faith that we have the man who is going to get that done. Back off Warchild seriously.
Nothing has really changed since the mid-60s when I attended SMU and we had winning and top 25 teams. The rich Barbi dolls and ego frat guys were every where on campus. They really did not fully support the sports teams when they had more interesting things to do. Times were different in that football was played at the Cotton Bowl which left the campus lifeless on game days. As a result, the Barbi dolls could be induced to make an appearances at games and the student body had an appearance of support. No partying on the Vard to distract the easily distracted. Never-the-less, the extra bodies in the seats did not cause them to watch the games, spend any time cheering or have a clue what was going on. This is always going to be a problem at SMU; however, winning does matter and will reel in the ambilivant group and cultivate the uninitiated.
I know a few of these Barbi dolls, and the story is usually the same. They went to HS where supporting football was chic (e.g. Plano, Allen). Then they got to SMU and the Mustangs are spectacularly bad. They're taken aback (initially) that it's actually OK to go the Blvd festivities (with a sundress on and heels...just like when daddy used to let me go the Byron Nelson with his company...yay!) and then go home, without going to the game which the good guys were going to lose anyway. Eventually, no second thoughts whatsoever about any of it, and there's not even a remote thought of going to the game.
I am sure you are right, but I was talking about changing the makeup of applicants to the school--getting those ex-high school football players and other athletes interested in SMU because the school has a successful athletic program.
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