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Postby Dooby » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:33 pm

Phil Steele picks SMU to go to a bowl game according to a friend who has seen an advance copy.

Edit: He said that Thursday; it may have hit the streets today.

Also, you can track it all here:

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2009.html#cusa
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Postby rich59 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:58 am

When I say seriously improved I am talking about 4 or 5 wins and very competitive in the rest of the games. Something on the order of Fry's second year. That is predicated on losing no player who is irreplaceable. The only one I can think of that would rate that description would be Mitchell. When I say rumbling among the supporters I am talking about the people who pledged the big money to hire Jones. With the stock market, et al, I imagine that many of those who pledged are already having second thoughts. It would not surprise me at all to see SMU shut down the program if Jones does not come through.
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Postby jtstang » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:03 am

rich59 wrote:That is predicated on losing no player who is irreplaceable. The only one I can think of that would rate that description would be Mitchell.

Of course, who else could we get to throw the ball to opposing linemen?
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Postby Dooby » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:10 am

rich59 wrote:When I say seriously improved I am talking about 4 or 5 wins and very competitive in the rest of the games. Something on the order of Fry's second year. That is predicated on losing no player who is irreplaceable. The only one I can think of that would rate that description would be Mitchell. When I say rumbling among the supporters I am talking about the people who pledged the big money to hire Jones. With the stock market, et al, I imagine that many of those who pledged are already having second thoughts. It would not surprise me at all to see SMU shut down the program if Jones does not come through.


Once you know what you are talking about, let me know. Then I will start paying attention.
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Postby PonyKai » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:00 am

Dooby wrote:
rich59 wrote:When I say seriously improved I am talking about 4 or 5 wins and very competitive in the rest of the games. Something on the order of Fry's second year. That is predicated on losing no player who is irreplaceable. The only one I can think of that would rate that description would be Mitchell. When I say rumbling among the supporters I am talking about the people who pledged the big money to hire Jones. With the stock market, et al, I imagine that many of those who pledged are already having second thoughts. It would not surprise me at all to see SMU shut down the program if Jones does not come through.


Once you know what you are talking about, let me know. Then I will start paying attention.


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Postby Stallion » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:45 pm

Athlon has us as No. 98 in the country. Teams on our schedule rated below us are 103. Tulane, No. 104 Rice and No. 106 UAB-kind of surprised Rice and UAB are rated below us. See summary

http://www.athlonsports.com/college-foo ... nos-91-100
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Postby Mexmustang » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:39 pm

As a friend of a number of "these" people, I can assure you that they didn't earn and retain their money through "knee jerk" reactions and decisons. They are impatient, but pleased that Coach Jones would even consider SMU. If anyone is going to feel the heat it will be the two layers above Jones, who haven't given him all the support he expected.
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Postby Peruna94&07 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:00 pm

If anyone is going to feel the heat it will be the two layers above Jones, who haven't given him all the support he expected.


So what has June not gotten that he was promised........
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Postby BUS » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:14 pm

What would level the field with other schools?

Things are better and they need to get more so. How about a couple more degree programs to start with. Other issue could be realaxed transfer rules or counting more of transfers hours.

Get's a little sticky when you think about academics.

I would like to see a Sports Management, and Phsical Education Degree programs added. :wink:
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Postby abezontar » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:26 pm

I'd like to see a football and basketball degree added. They would be similar to dance and music programs in that a significant portion of their degree relates to achieving excellence in their field. I'm surprised no school has tried this. I guess the NCAA has a rule against it, or that accrediting bodies will not sanction it.
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Postby Mexmustang » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:04 pm

What doesn't he have? For starters, an adequate summer school budget; a tuitor budget; a recruiting budget; marketing budget; locker room facilities, including simple benches for the players in the locker rooms, enough chairs in the meeting rooms to accomodate all the players for team meetings, TV's, sofas and lounge chairs in the players lounge area ; a finished steam room in the locker room; new weights and exercise equipment, classy warmups (shorts, sweats, tee shirts and warmups) and enough flexibility to accept transfer hours from good acedemic schools such a the University of Miami and Northwestern. Some of these may seem strange but recruits notice these things. It may also be that his budget has been constrained for the two open assistant positions, I don't know, but the rest is widely known. If you haven't been approached to help send me your e-mail addresses. Go by the locker room and see for yourselves.

Once we get our locker room spruced up, we might even complete the Visitors locker room under the scoreboard.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:40 pm

Mexmustang wrote:What doesn't he have? For starters, an adequate summer school budget; a tuitor budget; a recruiting budget; marketing budget; locker room facilities, including simple benches for the players in the locker rooms, enough chairs in the meeting rooms to accomodate all the players for team meetings, TV's, sofas and lounge chairs in the players lounge area ; a finished steam room in the locker room; new weights and exercise equipment, classy warmups (shorts, sweats, tee shirts and warmups) and enough flexibility to accept transfer hours from good acedemic schools such a the University of Miami and Northwestern. Some of these may seem strange but recruits notice these things. It may also be that his budget has been constrained for the two open assistant positions, I don't know, but the rest is widely known. If you haven't been approached to help send me your e-mail addresses. Go by the locker room and see for yourselves.

Once we get our locker room spruced up, we might even complete the Visitors locker room under the scoreboard.
Damn. That sounds like what JJ was dealing with in Hawai'i!
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Postby Mexmustang » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:46 pm

No, of course not that bad, but some of us are still not aware of how much garbage still needs to be swept out after 20 years of mismanagement.
Again, if TCU can move up in all fields, average test scores of incoming freshman, new buildings (including a quadrangle and refurbished stadium), upgrade in faculty and still go to bowls and actually field a baseball team, then we have only ourselves to blame for not putting the heat on our administration for lulling our alumns into the belief that they are doing a good job. TCU started with less, and has done more, Turner should re-examine his performance.
As far as the academic board that reversed June's dismissals from the program, June should then become a member of the board that determines academic tenure of the faculty--that would be equally stupid and silly! Maybe the faculty would like to decide our schedule and starting lineups for June?
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Postby SMU21TCU10 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:14 pm

Mexmustang wrote:No, of course not that bad, but some of us are still not aware of how much garbage still needs to be swept out after 20 years of mismanagement.
Again, if TCU can move up in all fields, average test scores of incoming freshman, new buildings (including a quadrangle and refurbished stadium), upgrade in faculty and still go to bowls and actually field a baseball team, then we have only ourselves to blame for not putting the heat on our administration for lulling our alumns into the belief that they are doing a good job. TCU started with less, and has done more, Turner should re-examine his performance.
As far as the academic board that reversed June's dismissals from the program, June should then become a member of the board that determines academic tenure of the faculty--that would be equally stupid and silly! Maybe the faculty would like to decide our schedule and starting lineups for June?


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Postby San Antonio Mustang » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:37 pm

I also didn't know there were that many needs. I had the opportunity to visit with Coach Jones today and he told me that we are in the process of instituting a tutor program. I was surprised to learn we did not already have one. BTW, light turnout at the New Braunfels camp today. I counted 43 and I didn't see anyone that I thought was good enough, although there were a couple of decent QBs. Swope and Bordano were there, but did not participate. Coach said they had about 200 in Dallas and over 100 at Kilgore and Houston so the camps overall were successful.
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