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Re: Cooton Bowl in Arlington

Postby that's great raplh » Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:49 pm

KnuckleStang wrote:This crap sucks, just rename it the Jerry Bowl. If they can play the Armed Forces Bowl at a dump like ACS, I don't know why they can't keep the tradition of the Cotton Bowl


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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby smupony94 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:54 pm

Thank you for your insight
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby Mountain Mustang » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:00 pm

Does this mean the Cotton Bowl will go back to the Cotton Bowl (sounds funny) in future years?
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby smupony94 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:01 pm

Mountain Mustang wrote:Does this mean the Cotton Bowl will go back to the Cotton Bowl (sounds funny) in future years?

No
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby Buckethead » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:34 pm

This is the first Cotton Bowl that I didn't finish watching in maybe 35 years. It just felt like any other bowl game. Having grown up in Dallas the Cotton Bowl was always the most important game of the year. Yea I know that it is no longer a part of the big 4 like it use to be, but I am a traditionalist.

I still don't understand why we let every coach that we hire change our uniforms and colors. Or why we need those other two horses. I don't mind change, but something's shouldn't be changed, they are called traditions for a reason.

I also know that the Cotton Bowl wants to be a BCS bowl and needs to be able to control the Texas weather.

It just wasn't the same today.
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby ponyscott » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:39 pm

Buckethead wrote:This is the first Cotton Bowl that I didn't finish watching in maybe 35 years. It just felt like any other bowl game. Having grown up in Dallas the Cotton Bowl was always the most important game of the year. Yea I know that it is no longer a part of the big 4 like it use to be, but I am a traditionalist.

I still don't understand why we let every coach that we hire change our uniforms and colors. Or why we need those other two horses. I don't mind change, but something's shouldn't be changed, they are called traditions for a reason.

I also know that the Cotton Bowl wants to be a BCS bowl and needs to be able to control the Texas weather.

It just wasn't the same today.


It really wasn't the same was it? Too bad.....
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby smupony94 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:46 pm

My grandfather was involved with the CB for two decades and says it had been losing it's luster and something had to change and since the city would not truly step up it was bound to leave
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby ponyscott » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:59 pm

Once again thank our favorite Mayor Laura Miller..she kept putting small band aids on a terminally ill patient...Its just a matter of time before we lose the Texas/OU game as well...Jerry Jones is bound and determined to get that game in Arlington as well.
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby SoCal_Pony » Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:39 am

Lambeau Field / Fair Park…there are not many unique NFL stadium venues these days…most are on built on locations based on interstates.

Real shame that the Cowboys could not return to their natural home, but I suspect the Red River shootout stays in Dallas. It is a once a year event with pretty much guaranteed good weather, plus of course Big Tex.

I have been to countless Cowboy games at Fair Park when the State Fair of Texas was on….nothing like it for an NFL game…PERIOD.
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:05 am

ponyscott wrote:Once again thank our favorite Mayor Laura Miller..she kept putting small band aids on a terminally ill patient...Its just a matter of time before we lose the Texas/OU game as well...Jerry Jones is bound and determined to get that game in Arlington as well.



Not all Laura Miller's fault, FWIW. First off, I don't think Jerry ever had any intention of bringing the Cowboys back to Dallas. He just played Dallas for a better offer. With that being said, one of the deal breakers for the new stadium was that Jerry wasn't going to have first dibs on any act that passed through Dallas. At the time that the deal for the AAC was being done, it was put into the contract that AAC would get first choice of acts. That didn't sit well with Jerry.
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby PlanoStang » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:37 am

The Cotton Bowl is in the process of starting a new bowl game there. Maybe it will be in place by
next year. They should sue for the right to use their own name for the new bowl :!:

By the time the Jerry Bowl reaches the BCS rotation, hopefully the BCS will be gone, and a playoff
will be taking its place.
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Re: Cooton Bowl in Arlington

Postby lwjr » Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:13 pm

smupony94 wrote:Should have read the DMN

AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic sees clear skies ahead

Not that Rick Baker cares anymore.

"Let it snow," he sniffed.

Until this year, Baker cared more about the state of the weather than all of Pete Delkus' dependents put together. Baker started checking a month out from the Cotton Bowl. The week of the game, he got weather updates every hour. When you're president of a bowl played outdoors in North Texas in early January, you'd like to know as soon as possible how much firewood you'll need.

Of course, today's game between Oklahoma State and Ole Miss marks a new era. And not just a 72 degree one, either.

The most important item to the BCS, JerryWorld can hold 100,000 fans, when the fire warshall looks the other way. That means more $$$$ to the BCS gang.

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Moving from Fair Park to JerryWorld wounded traditionalists, of which I count myself a member. But it was the right thing to do, and the first step toward making the Cotton Bowl Classic a major player again.

Next step: Joining the BCS rotation when all the planets realign in four years.

If a playoff isn't on the horizon – who'd have thought health-care reform would come first? – you might as well get a title game in your backyard every four or five years.

The reason the Cotton Bowl Classic didn't make the BCS rotation in the first place was because of its stadium. Now that the roof is taken care of, the hardest part's over.

But it's not as simple as crashing a White House dinner party, either.

Essentially, one of the following must take place when the next four-year deal is up after the 2014 bowl season:

•A bowl has to drop out – Forget the Rose or the Orange, both tradition-rich and in good health. The Sugar? New Orleans' ongoing recovery makes it vulnerable, but the SEC would secede from the Union before it allowed the Sugar to fall.

And that leaves the Fiesta, which was just cleared in an ethics probe by Arizona's former attorney general. Nothing like an impartial judge. But would a guilty verdict have mattered? Hardly. This group is tighter than a bee colony.

•Rotation adds a fifth member in the current format – Here's the best argument against it: If you could host the lucrative title game once every four years, or once every five, which would you vote for?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

•Rotation adds a fifth in a plus-one format – The best compromise between the current system and a playoff is a plus-one, with a title game a week after all the BCS bowls play. With 10 teams in the BCS, you'd need another bowl to accommodate the set-up. The ACC and SEC are already on board, and the Big 12 would go along if it meant the Cotton Bowl was added.

•Rotation adds a fifth for Mountain West – TCU, Utah and BYU have proven that the MWC deserves an automatic BCS bid, and Air Force didn't hurt its argument with a convincing win over Houston. With at least two more teams added to the BCS, the system would require another bowl.

If you're wondering why the Cotton Bowl would be the first choice in an expanded BCS, let's talk geography.

The Cotton Bowl would be the most centrally located of the BCS bowls, making it the easiest commute. Fans could get in and out easily. Texas also is a football state, which should count for something.

And then there's a matter of balancing the scales. In BCS history, a Big 12 team has made the title game six times. In four of those games (Oklahoma-Florida State, '01 Orange Bowl; OU-LSU, '04 Sugar Bowl; Texas-USC, '06 Rose Bowl; and OU-Florida, '09 Orange Bowl), the Big 12's opponent hosted a virtual home game.

The Big 12 not only has earned a potential home-field advantage, too, it's fairer than giving the SEC states a third BCS bowl with Atlanta or Orlando, the Cotton's biggest rivals.

The push should start in earnest the summer of '12. The Cotton's future starts today.

You'll know the bowl staff at JerryWorld. They'll be wearing Hawaiian shirts.

"Finally," Baker said, "we're a warm-weather site."
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Re: Cotton Bowl in Arlington

Postby HorseRaider » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:28 pm

That $50 mil facelift didn't do much but add extra seating and a new external look and redone restrooms. I think that was done more to make the OU/Tx people happy than anything else. Jerry was going to build his palace anywhere that put up the $$$, regardless of location.

The move to JerryDome was going to happen sooner or later. Better now so they can make their move to have the Cotton Bowl regain it's elite status with the other BCS bowls. Had to be done. Move out of that old stadium and get with the times. The Sugar and Orange bowls moved from their original locations and there's no sense of loss of tradition with those bowl games. Can't wait to see a national championship game there.

In spite of one of the worst-played CFB games I've ever seen yesterday, the atmosphere was terrific. I'm glad the move was made. The game is where it needs to be, and I plan on continuing to support it.
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