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by stc9 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:31 pm
CoxMustangFan wrote:ponyphi07 wrote:soccermom wrote:LOL...I emailed him early 2007 and he hasn't responded----yet!
WELL your email must just be a stupid complaint or extremely poorly written. I have written him on the topic of Phil Bennet, Jimmy Tubbs, AND Matt Doherty. He has responded every single time. Not only does he respond, but he is very candid. Next time add some substance and appreciation for the job he has done for us. Pony Up!
Ponyphi07 is: a) Orsini's mom b) Orsini's wife c) Orsini's college roommate d) Orsini's stalker
You generally don't return e-mails from your stalker unless it is to remind them of your restraining order.
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by CalallenStang » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:29 am
leopold wrote:Nobody outside of SMU knows of our new basketball facility
This is incorrect. Since the Crum Center opened, representatives from many universities have come and toured the facility, eager to get ideas for their own center. Fans from other places may not know about it, but in the college athletics community, it's well-known.
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by SMU89 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:54 am
CalallenStang wrote:leopold wrote:Nobody outside of SMU knows of our new basketball facility
This is incorrect. Since the Crum Center opened, representatives from many universities have come and toured the facility, eager to get ideas for their own center. Fans from other places may not know about it, but in the college athletics community, it's well-known.
Seems a lot of the NBA teams practice there when they are in town to play The World Champion Mavericks (HYB)
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by Mexmustang » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:11 am
We owe Steve a great deal. He is the first athletic director in two decades (or more) to challenge the alumns, supporters and administration allowing little ole SMU to elbow our way back to the table of relevant intercollegate athletics.
His job here is not finished, I hope he considers that and remains here.
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by texasmustang10 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:24 am
Orsini has done well, but I agree that we could use a more innovative marketing strategy. In a city of more than 1 million people, a top 50 program with back to back bowl appearances should be able to sell out every game regardless of how the Cowboys are doing. Furthermore, there has been no success in getting students to stay past half time (guilty), even in close games. Granted, perhaps a slower and more organic growth in loyalty and support will be better in the long run, which is guaranteed to happen as long as we keep winning.
I also think that we should have been able to upgrade conferences by now. How did we miss the boat on the MWC when Hawaii, Fresno St., and Nevada got invites??? Especially considering we have a rich history (in a way), huge market, brighter future, etc. My only guess is that Orsini, whether or not we actually received an invite, decided not to aggressively pursue MWC membership and to hold out for a potential invite to a BCS conference down the road. The only way I see that as a possibility is if the Big 12-2 collapses when Texas A&M leaves for the SEC, and even then, Houston would be the logical first choice for replacement.
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by NickSMU17 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:28 am
Not sure we missed an invite to the MWC...it just wasnt a great fit for us...
marketing is defn an area that can be approved...
all in all, orsini's job is mainly to fund raise and put us in a position to move to a better league...and he defn can fund raise...
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by peruna81 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:35 am
compare apples to apples...did Orsini do a better job than his predecessor? Did he increase revenue/wins in key programs/develop facilities and resources/find coaches that would better the existing athletic footprint?
In each of these, I count his work at SMU to be a marked success. The complaint (actually a University-wide one) that has gotten a great deal of play here recently, is that the 'marketing' of the product, particularly athletics, is non-existent. That is actually a very solvable issue. There are few Russ Potts, but there are folks already involved with SMU that can partner to address that complaint adequately.
I would never condemn a man who sought to test the market for his services...he has done well here, and we are/were desperately fortunate to have/had him.
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by CalallenStang » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:36 am
CoxMustangFan wrote:CalallenStang wrote:leopold wrote:Nobody outside of SMU knows of our new basketball facility
This is incorrect. Since the Crum Center opened, representatives from many universities have come and toured the facility, eager to get ideas for their own center. Fans from other places may not know about it, but in the college athletics community, it's well-known.
Who cares if other schools know about it? Unless we're recruiting their staff it doesn't matter. In fact, I would prefer competitors know as little as possible about it. We need recruits, players, and fans to know about it.
Leopold was saying that nobody knows about it to infer that people doing the hiring at Tennessee don't know about it...IF, and that's a big IF, they are considering Orsini, they sure as hell know about it.
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by Harry0569 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:51 am
texasmustang10 wrote: I also think that we should have been able to upgrade conferences by now. How did we miss the boat on the MWC when Hawaii, Fresno St., and Nevada got invites??? Especially considering we have a rich history (in a way), huge market, brighter future, etc. My only guess is that Orsini, whether or not we actually received an invite, decided not to aggressively pursue MWC membership and to hold out for a potential invite to a BCS conference down the road. The only way I see that as a possibility is if the Big 12-2 collapses when Texas A&M leaves for the SEC, and even then, Houston would be the logical first choice for replacement.
There were discussions about the MWC, but it made no sense to the SMU Admins, especially considering the departure of TCU and Utah. And seriously, why the hell would we want to go the MWC? I can also say for an absolute fact, we are above UH on the totem poll in Big XII discussions (albeit everyone is very low on the totem poll). UH's' academics are TERRIBLE to say the least, and UT would never want to include them for that very erason. With all of that said, conference realignment is dead for the near future, except for the WAC.
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by Harry0569 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:52 am
I have had quite a few interactions/meetings with Orsini, and based on my experiences, he is a class-act AD and man. I sincerely hope he stays.
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by Mexmustang » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:57 am
I think you raised some good points regarding "stale culture" at SMU. With all the new buildings, fund raising and hopefully rising athletic program, we tend to forget the school's internal culture is one that seems at times to "eat our young". Success has bread jeolousy and suspicion, rather than an enthusiastic positive response from all segments of the university. As far as marketing, Orsini has been operating on a very fine budget, as our tuition and fees go up, so does the transfer costs (scholarship accounting) from the university go up as well, giving the false impression that athletics are losing millions of dollars. Many simply don't understand the accounting, overhead burden and interest in the university carried by the althetic department. As Orsini said, a successful athletic program is the university's front porch--not many sleep or eat in it, but it sure improves the look and value of the house.
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by peruna81 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:10 am
Mexmustang wrote:I think you raised some good points regarding "stale culture" at SMU. With all the new buildings, fund raising and hopefully rising athletic program, we tend to forget the school's internal culture is one that seems at times to "eat our young". Success has bread jeolousy and suspicion, rather than an enthusiastic positive response from all segments of the university. As far as marketing, Orsini has been operating on a very fine budget, as our tuition and fees go up, so does the transfer costs (scholarship accounting) from the university go up as well, giving the false impression that athletics are losing millions of dollars. Many simply don't understand the accounting, overhead burden and interest in the university carried by the althetic department. As Orsini said, a successful athletic program is the university's front porch--not many sleep or eat in it, but it sure improves the look and value of the house.
spot on
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by NickSMU17 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:25 am
He is coming to Chicago in 2 weeks, hopefully we can generate some questions to ask...
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by sacklunch » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:12 am
With regards to conference, in my opinion, we are in the best non-aq conference. This year C-USA is better than the WAC and MWC and I'm sure this trend will continue. Between SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Southern Miss, UCF, Marshall, and Memphis C-USA is clearly the strongest Non-AQ conference.
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by One Trick Pony » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:19 am
sacklunch wrote:With regards to conference, in my opinion, we are in the best non-aq conference. This year C-USA is better than the WAC and MWC and I'm sure this trend will continue. Between SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Southern Miss, UCF, Marshall, and Memphis C-USA is clearly the strongest Non-AQ conference.
I have to agree on this
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