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So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby Stallion » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:05 am

All the Receivers should be healthy by UCF-surely we can give the starters a few downs of rest with guys like Jeremy Johnson and Thompson getting experience. I realize Thompson might just win the job but I hope Jones relents from the "starters play all the minutes" routine. A lot more options now
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby The PonyGrad » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:07 am

Yep, a lot more competition at WR can only help this team.
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby Dutch » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:07 am

agreed, need to work these guys in and out of the game to keep them fresh for the 4th quarter. lets make it a track meet.
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby RGV Pony » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:07 am

what is Holman's 40 time? Doesnt seem like he has the wheels Thompson does

in answer to the question, I think we might do what Dr Death or whomever was saying and roll 5 wide a lot more often..get Zach Line-who is playing a ton of minutes and kickoff-some rest
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby kull » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:12 am

it will depend on the progression of JJMcD.
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby The PonyGrad » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:14 am

kull wrote:it will depend on the progression of JJMcD.


Two weeks to get a lot of work in. I expect to see some new wrinkles.
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby Dutch » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:16 am

kull wrote:it will depend on the progression of JJMcD.

still? his YPG has trended upwards almost every game. he's got 1,480 passing yards through 5 games and has had most, but not all of the reps. i know it's not crazy numbers, but 300ypg isn't too bad when you've got a back like Line who averages over 100.
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby Big Easy Pony » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:19 am

RGV Pony wrote:what is Holman's 40 time? Doesnt seem like he has the wheels Thompson does

in answer to the question, I think we might do what Dr Death or whomever was saying and roll 5 wide a lot more often..get Zach Line-who is playing a ton of minutes and kickoff-some rest

I think his top-end speed is really good. Not sure he has quite the acceleration from a standing position that Thompson does, so Thompson might appear faster, but when Holman really cuts it loose, he can cover a lot of ground in a hurry.

Have to assume Beasley regains his starting position when he is healthy. He has been too good for too long, but it is so refreshing to see what kind of a quality player we have behind him with Jeremy Johnson.

The Holman/Thompson battle, however, should be interesting. I think Holman is the more polished receiver, but Thompson sure has shown some ability the last couple of weeks. That could be quite a battle.

Coach Jones likes to take his four starters and play them all day, but the emergence of Thompson and Worm might allow them to rotate guys and keep everyone fresh.
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby indianmustang » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:21 am

how good are our back up o-line for next year
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby Big Easy Pony » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:23 am

indianmustang wrote:how good are our back up o-line for next year

I think Collins is a proven commodity, and I keep hearing great things about Gottschalk.
Beyond that ... there's opportunity for some young guys to really step up, I guess. Hope some of the older guys (Jordan Free, etc.) grab the other jobs and make them their own.
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby redpony » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:25 am

Shame we can't run 6 WOs.

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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby kull » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:36 am

Dutch wrote:
kull wrote:it will depend on the progression of JJMcD.

still? his YPG has trended upwards almost every game. he's got 1,480 passing yards through 5 games and has had most, but not all of the reps. i know it's not crazy numbers, but 300ypg isn't too bad when you've got a back like Line who averages over 100.


Yeah, we torched TCU with base reads in the offense. Darius is showing the most maturity in his route tree (with occasional bone-headed field position mistake), the rest are still learning. We are still leaving way to many big plays open in the passing game. Until JJMcD takes the next step in pre/post snap recognition, we will likely see the same 4 WR's play minus the return of Beasley, unless June is calling specific packages. The use of Haynes, Holman, and Holleman will depend on JJMcD comfort level.

Last year we were one of the highest variability offenses in the country with the play of Line; but held back by holding on the ball too long and the number of sacks. IMO, JJMcD needs (1) some trash can work to fix a few trajectory issues, (2) improve the speed of his reads, and (3) be prepared for the dyslexic ZBS from the Houston defense. I hope KP is using this opportunity to 'sponge up' the offense. Both QB's would benefit from cut-ups from the 2006 season at hawaii. The young WR's should be watching the UH-FSU game from 2006.
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So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby 2ndandlong » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:46 pm

We will need as much speed as possible against the UCF secondary. Keep 'em fresh as long as we have good options.
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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby DiamondM75 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:00 pm

The PonyGrad wrote:
kull wrote:it will depend on the progression of JJMcD.


.... I expect to see some new wrinkles.


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Re: So What Happens When Beasley/Holman are Healthy

Postby Stallion » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:03 pm

UCF has that CB who might be the Best Player in CUSA. He single handedly made numerous plays in the Championship that decided that game.
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