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Just for you!

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ponyinNC wrote:So we've got Herman Cain and Mitch McConnell as avatars now??? When did pf.com get political?

When I see someone with a Nancy Pelosi pic, I'll know it's time to delete my pf.com account.
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if not for post count, I'd delete my account right now.
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JJ = dckihead
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"Newsflash altar boys- this is college football, not vacation Bible school. Everyone is a whore if the price is right. JJ has as much loyalty as you probably have to your job if a better offer came calling, or in Nick's case, to his virtual group of friends on World of Warcraft. JJ didn't graduate from SMU, he has no built in loyalty here. Again, if you want to hire a guy who's going to love SMU and stay here forever, then find a coach who graduated from here (maybe)<BR itxtNodeId="1006"><BR itxtNodeId="1005">Funny this is, 99.99 percent of people on this board would do the EXACT same thing at their respective jobs as June has done, timing be damned. Yet some here want to paint him as some turncoat scoundrel. Several people around here need to shut the [deleted] up already, you've made your points, they aren't good ones, and they've gotten stale (to say the least)"

Yep, this about sums it up. Its funny to see the shock and disappointment of people who view the world through red/white/blue goggles when they discover that June Jones doesn't. For us, SMU is a passion because its our alma matar. For June (or almost any other coach for that matter), its a job and its a business. It sounds like ASU is willing to pay its new coach upwards of $2.5 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR! June would be crazy not to take a look. June's priorities are: (1) June Jones; (2) June Jones' family; (3) June Jones' assistants and staff; (4) June Jones' players; (5) June Jones' bank account and retirement fund; (6) June Jones' reputation and legacy; and then maybe (7) SMU. BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! Its a job and its a business. When June gets the right offer and he feels the time is right, he'll be gone. Guess what. . .so will Orsini, Doh, and almost every other coach or AD that we hire. That's ok. The identity of our coach is not nearly as important as the commitment and model. SMU has finally put that in place and has shown that it will due what is necessary to bring in top talent. So we'll be fine.

Get comfortable with the idea that June will do what's best for June. If you trusted him to do anything else, you're a fool.
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"1. I trust that JJ will continue to build this program as he sees fit.
2. I trust that JJ wants to go out a winner.
3. I trust that JJ wants to be perceived as a hero.
4. I trust that JJ genuinely cares about his players.
5. I trust that JJ will do what’s best for him (see #1-3).
6. I trust that JJ is human and it pisses him off to see poor fan support (see #3 and #4)
7. I trust that JJ will use whatever leverage he has available.
8. I trust that JJ won’t change, and he’s the same guy SMU hired.
9. I trust that many SMU fans are quick to point the finger at others rather than at themselves.

That’s what I trust. Nothing that has happened recently shakes my "trusts", and in total all move SMU forward."

Good post.
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mustangxc wrote:Just for you!

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ponyinNC wrote:So we've got Herman Cain and Mitch McConnell as avatars now??? When did pf.com get political?

When I see someone with a Nancy Pelosi pic, I'll know it's time to delete my pf.com account.


I literally just threw up... Everytime I have your avatar on my screen, my screen goes out :lol:
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NickSMU17 wrote:East coast what does a great fan like you do for SMU? Tell me so I can model myself....

Not [deleted] all over our coach in a public forum. Believe it or not, recruits and their parents read these message boards. Hopefully I don't have to tell you that. If you have issues with JJ and want to voice them, then that's fine. You're free to do so. PF wouldn't be fun if everyone agreed all of the time. But the constant barrage of vitriol towards a guy who has done more for this program than anyone in a quarter century gets old after awhile. It doesn't really bother me, I'm just sitting here in front of a computer pretending to do work, but when people have to read over and over again what a [deleted] guy June Jones is and how he needs to get out, well, maybe it's true and maybe it's not (I don't know JJ personally) but fairly or unfairly it plants seeds in the minds of recruits and their families, seeds we as SMU fans shouldn't want to be planted for the good of the program.

The fact is, what JJ has done is no different than what coaches at dozens of other mid-major and even lower-tier BCS programs do every single season. And again, the fact that this is even happening at SMU is a sign of the progress we've made in four years.

So tell me, Nick, your profile says you're in "derivatives" so I'm going to assume you have some rudimentary knowledge of the financial world.

Let's say there was a major company 25 years ago, one of the biggest in the country. And then it faced a major scandal and was never the same again. Chapter 11, massive layoffs, etc. The company survived, but was only a shell of its former self, and was nothing but an afterthought and a joke for many years afterwards. People had almost forgotten about the company decades later.

And then, along came a new CEO. A CEO who had turned around another company before with impressive success. This new CEO came in, and the first year was one of reorganization with no difference in results. But in the second year, the CEO's prowess paid off, and the company's stock price soared higher than it had at any point since the scandal. Granted it was nowhere close to its old success, but it was still more success than the company had seen in 25 years. People even started seeing commericals for the company on TV again, and couldn't believe it. They though the company had folded years ago. The second and third year, the company continued its profitability. After the third year, though, the CEO was courted by another struggling company. And then, unexpectedly, the board of directors fired the CEO and replaced him with the company's young hotshot marketing whiz, who was just a few years removed from business school. Would you think that was a smart business decision?
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Im not reading that long a post...

point is you sound like a passionate guy get more involved. meet with JJ, so, mcmurry leonard, ect...

Make your own educated opinions...
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I am in derivatives and really good at what I do...its got a lot of similarities to athletics, easy to see who is doing well and not, who works hard and who doesnt...its also easy to see if you can plug someone into a system and whether they will achieve results or not...

I was a huge JJ fan, now I'm not, it wasnt because of this incident it had been building for awhile for me...this just tops it off...

He was right guy at right time, he is not right guy going forward...

Unfortunately, I havent done well enough to be on circle and voice my opinion to those that really matter...
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NickSMU17 wrote:I am in derivatives and really good at what I do....


NickSMU17 wrote:Unfortunately, I havent done well enough to be on circle and voice my opinion to those that really matter...


I'm confused...
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I cant donate 100k a year for 5 years for a football coach...
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NickSMU17 wrote:I cant donate 100k a year for 5 years for a football coach...

Work harder. Get off Ponyfans and back on E-Trade
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clueless..
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Most people on here would gladly quit their jobs to take one that pays enough money to be in the circle of champions. Then they can demand June be fired for a lack of loyalty and being untrustworthy.

Of course, if they interviewed for such a job while they had a job, they are immoral people with no loyalty and can't be trusted.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Ok...
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