MM65 Question

[SoCal_Pony]

Been kind of slow around here so I pose this question.

Had SHS played SMU this year in Houston, who would have won, by what score, and why.

Finally, what would YOU have wished the final score to be?

[GoRedGoBlue]

Been kind of slow around here so I pose this question.

Had SHS played SMU this year in Houston, who would have won, by what score, and why.

Finally, what would YOU have wished the final score to be?

Southlake?

120-0 SMU, rediculous question. Southlake might not even get a first down.

Southlake has a few (6 maybe?) 17-18 year old Div-1a prospects, SMU has 85 Div-1a players (average age 20ish).

It's like thinking OU could beat the worst team in the NFL...

[RGV Pony]

I think he meant Sam Houston State, MM65's alma mater.

[SMUstang]

I think I would take SHS. And I'm not sure we could have beaten UMHB either.

[Mustangs35SMU]

So you are also saying,
Nevada, San Jose State, and Tulsa wouldve lost to them..

You are out of your mind.

[MrMustang1965]

Sorry I didn't respond to this question sooner...I've been busy the past couple of days with wedding plans.

In a match-up between Sam Houston State (yes, my alma mater) and Southern Methodist University (my 'adopted' university and the alma mater of my parents and my future wife), I'd have to say that if the game had been played this year, SMU would have been the victor in a very close game.

And I think the game would have been played in Dallas, not Huntsville or Houston. There are quite a few Bearkat alumni in the D-FW area although we're the 'silent majority'.

I base my conclusion on two factors: First, SMU would have had 'home field' advantage in an early season OOC game. Sam Houston - for the most part - does not do well playing Div. 1-A teams away from Huntsville. Look at what happened to them in 2003 in Waco against Baylor. In 2005, Sam Houston State will travel to Lubbock to meet the Texas Tech Red Raiders.

Second, while I do believe that Sam Houston State had the better QB this year in Texas A$M transfer Dustin Long (first runner-up to the 2004 Walter Payton Award), he was not 'in the groove' early in the season and I believe that SMU's larger defensive line would have rattled the 'Kat offensive line most of the game. However, Long would have scrambled and found open receivers in the SMU defensive secondary enough times to score at least 3 TDs.

Final score: SMU Mustangs 27, Sam Houston State Bearkats 21.

And I'd have been the happiest fan in Ford Stadium because I saw BOTH of my teams play each other and, either way, I'm a winner!

[HorsePower]

SMU 37
Sam Houston 6

[MrMustang1965]

HP: What do you base that final score on? Did you see Sam Houston play this year? I certainly think they'd have scored more than 6 against SMU.

[HorsePower]

Nah - Humphrey and Nnabuife would tear 'em up!

[MrMustang1965]

Nah - Humphrey and Nnabuife would tear 'em up!

While I have the utmost respect for Humphrey (5'9", 175) and Nnabuife (6'1", 207), I think they'd have had their work cut out for them with SE Jason Mathenia (6'0", 195), FL Vincent Cartwright (6'4", 215) or WR Jarod Fuller (5'8", 170).

[SoCal_Pony]

Thanks for the response MM.

By the way, I deliberately selected Houston because I didn’t want either school to have a clear home field advantage, but I wanted SHS to benefit from the location.

It would have been a heck of a game. SMU should be favored, but SHS had the better QB and if Long could have lit us for 30+ points who knows?

[MrMustang1965]

Sam Houston State playing SMU is not totally out of the realm of possibilities. Sam Houston has Texas Tech already on its schedule for next year. In 2003, the Bearkats played Baylor.

It would be an interesting game, especially if it were to happen in 2005 or 2006 when SHSU will have Div. 1-AA transfer QB Noah Allen (Oklahoma) at the helm and the Bearkats will also have a new head coach who has not yet been named. Of course, I'm biased towards it happening for obvious reasons but I doubt the powers-that-be at SMU would even consider playing a Div. 1-AA school.

[GoRedGoBlue]

Sam Houston State playing SMU is not totally out of the realm of possibilities. Sam Houston has Texas Tech already on its schedule for next year. In 2003, the Bearkats played Baylor.

It would be an interesting game, especially if it were to happen in 2005 or 2006 when SHSU will have Div. 1-AA transfer QB Noah Allen (Oklahoma) at the helm and the Bearkats will also have a new head coach who has not yet been named. Of course, I'm biased towards it happening for obvious reasons but I doubt the powers-that-be at SMU would even consider playing a Div. 1-AA school.

And they lost to Baylor...a team that we SHOULD have beaten in Waco but not for a missed FG and a few late fumbles...

[jtstang]

I base my conclusion on two factors: First, SMU would have had 'home field' advantage in an early season OOC game.
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Second, while I do believe that Sam Houston State had the better QB this year in Texas A$M transfer Dustin Long (first runner-up to the 2004 Walter Payton Award), he was not 'in the groove' early in the season and I believe that SMU's larger defensive line would have rattled the 'Kat offensive line most of the game.

I think your logic is flawed (which is bound to happen when you are torn between two teams you like) and SMU would have lost. First, what good has home field advantage done us historically since Ford opened? Exactly, not much good at all. Second, our larger defensive line was not exactly "in the groove" at the beginning of the season--in fact, I think all would agree that the d-line was one of our weakest areas all season. No pressure on the QB whatsoever, and not very good against the run either. Would have been a good competitive game, I suspect.

[Stallion]

I got some Sam Houston St recruiting info just for you people-apparently that first team All State WR Brian Christian, who SMU was or is recruiting, committed to SHSU. He still being looked at by several Division 1A schools last I saw so that could change.