ponyboy wrote:Can we all grow up and frigging forgive the guy who coaches our team? Glad to hear about the extension.
why? when we know at 8-5 & a Bowl win that everything sucks?
8-5, 7-7 and lower tier bowl games forever!
I hope some of you people shoot higher in your personal life.
We all appreciate that JJ "brought us back", but we aren't back because we aren't nationally competitive. If he was producing 10+ win season, top 25 finishes then we can all bow down and kiss his sandals. There is no higher paid, less productive coach in the country, so put away the violin for June, he's doing fine for HIMSELF.
Let me take you back to the time just before JJ was hired. Where were we?
Here's where we were. We were an historically bad team (43% win percentage from 1950-1979) who cheated like hell in the '80's and won big. But then from 1989 when the DP ended to the time June stepped on campus, we had a 28% win percentage.
We were damn near close to being the biggest losers in all of college football (only Duke, Kent, Temple, and Buffalo were worse).
June Jones had the task not only of rebuilding a team, but of changing a culture deeply invested in losing, wallowing in losing, expecting losing, even enjoying it. That's what we paid him for. And very few other human beings, no matter how much we had to pay them, could have pulled it off.
Now we've just competed in our third straight bowl game with a demonstrative win over Pitt. The winning and the corresponding culture change has enabled a BCS invite, which we obtained and accepted.
The man needs a frigging statue you thankless toads.
ponyboy wrote:Let me take you back to the time just before JJ was hired. Where were we?
Here's where we were. We were an historically bad team (43% win percentage from 1950-1979) who cheated like hell in the '80's and won big. But then from 1989 when the DP ended to the time June stepped on campus, we had a 28% win percentage.
We were damn near close to being the biggest losers in all of college football (only Duke, Kent, Temple, and Buffalo were worse).
June Jones had the task not only of rebuilding a team, but of changing a culture deeply invested in losing, wallowing in losing, expecting losing, even enjoying it. That's what we paid him for. And very few other human beings, no matter how much we had to pay them, could have pulled it off.
Now we've just competed in our third straight bowl game with a demonstrative win over Pitt. The winning and the corresponding culture change has enabled a BCS invite, which we obtained and accepted.
The man needs a frigging statue you thankless toads.
Amen. My circle of SMU friends are all appreciative of the CofC for bring JJ to Dallas. Too bad this board is dominated by a small, pathological band of malcontents. I don't agree with everything JJ has done, and I don't like the R&S, but I consider his program to be a success. Now let's support him in getting us to a BCS bowl.
Sounds like his job is done! Clear the land and Build the statue.
No one is complaining that we went to three straight games. My contention is the job isn't done and stop slobbering all over a guy who doesn't want to be here, cashes a enormous paycheck and produces what at least half of all D-1 schools accomplish each year.
If he takes us to a BCS bowl game, I'll fund his statue and join you no expectation push overs in praising the Oregon con-man.
Wrong. The job IS done if you consider where we were and where we are now. Done. He's fulfilled every obligation, every hope.
But you're right about one thing: I too am thankful we get to continue to have him as our coach and expect he will take us to even higher levels of unbelievable (from the standpoint of where we came from) success.
ponyboy wrote:Wrong. The job IS done if you consider where we were and where we are now. Done. He's fulfilled every obligation, every hope.
But you're right about one thing: I too am thankful we get to continue to have him as our coach and expect he will take us to even higher levels of unbelievable (from the standpoint of where we came from) success.
RE Tycoon wrote:8-5, 7-7 and lower tier bowl games forever! I hope some of you people shoot higher in your personal life.
Ha Ha....yeah sure dude. I hope the 24/7 negativity works out well in "some of you people's" personal life! Negativity...glass half empty... is such a joy to live with, work with, be married to, be a child of....you name it.
8-5 and a Bowl Win really sucks! Big East really sucks! By God....we should be in the National Championship by now!
Speaking of "shooting higher" and June's methods.... How has June Jones done compared to you as far as football, as far as incomes paid to make football decisions? As far as playing football?...Coaching teams to Bowl Games?
You arroagant cry babies got your feelings hurt because June flirted with a bigger better deal.... You cant handle reality... It's a business....coaches come and go often No matter who we get.... if we win...bigger better schools are gonna come snooping deal with it....it's reality. no one came snooping when we had Cavan/Bennett 99.9% of all coaches left a job to take the one they're at.
June has done an outstanding job turning this program around. And whats great and funny is he doesnt give a ratz [deleted] what you message board experts that have never coached a game think that trash him all the time.
ponyboy wrote:Wrong. The job IS done if you consider where we were and where we are now. Done. He's fulfilled every obligation, every hope.
But you're right about one thing: I too am thankful we get to continue to have him as our coach and expect he will take us to even higher levels of unbelievable (from the standpoint of where we came from) success.
24-28 4 seasons in, it's not about where we've been but we want to go and the we're not going to get there with June, him and his staff just don't have the drive out on the recruiting trail to get us to the next level.
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security
NO- IPP we are not p!$$ed about his flirting with ASU. It was with the lack of ethics and integrity in recruiting players for ASU while he was still being payed by my alma mater (sorry if that isn't your alma mater. I hope your boss finds out you were offering your customers to your competitior while stil working for him and fires your [deleted].
RE Tycoon wrote:8-5 is The pinnacle of college football success and Nirvana for pony boy and the no glory lackies.
You gotta crawl before you can walk. I think the real problem is you're clearly delusional about where we were before Jones got us here. The Bottom 10 on ESPN.com had a permanent home for us. You don't just wake up a bum one day and decide you're going to be at the top of any given profession or sport tomorrow. You work your way up the rungs and and make your way through the ranks. We're on the upward climb. Realistically we could probably all agree that we're about half way of where our ultimate goal is which is BCS bowl berth. On the scale of things 1 being in ESPN's Bottom 10 and 10 being a BCS Bowl berth, we're at a 5 or 6. Not bad considering we were a 1 for about a quarter century.
Congratulations to the CofC for taking the steps necessary to get us on this track. Congrats to Jones for moving us in this direction. I'll celebrate even more with every step we take forward. I have seen no reason to think the upward climb will stop.
Those of you that think this success is going to happen tomorrow are just plain foolish.
Here's to those that wish us well and all the rest can go to hell!!!
sbsmith wrote:we're not going to get there with June, him and his staff just don't have the drive out on the recruiting trail to get us to the next level.
