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Postby DiamondM75 » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:02 pm

Found this on the NCAA web-site.

http://www2.ncaa.org/sports/general_inf ... ports.html

The following are women's emerging sports:

Archery
Badminton
Bowling
Equestrian
Rugby
Squash
Synchronized Swimming
Team Handball

So Mr. Copeland, when are we going to have Women's Rugby to help qualify under Title IX? Then we could get Men's Track and Field and Baseball.
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Postby Dooby » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:27 pm

I still don't understand why no one tries to make competitive cheerleading a sport for Title IX purposes.

Physical activity: Check.

Uniforms: Check.

Scholarships: Check.

Spectators: Check.

Risk of injury: Check.

Edit: I looked at the sport criteria and it appears to meet them all.
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Postby d_pony » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:30 pm

Diamond M75 - in order to bring back men's track and field we would need to add a minimum of 45 women's athletic scholarships (men's track and field counts 45 scholarship) - that means 3 different women's sports that will allow 15 scholarships - the cost per sport is about $400,000 to $600,000 per year or about $1,200,000 (minimum) plus about $4,000,000 to $600,000 for Men's track and field for a total minimum cost of $1,600,000 - not counting trying to find the room on campus for additional fields (which we don't have) - if you would guarantee the $1,600,000 on an annual basis and provide the additional funding to purchase land I know from first hand experience Jim Copeland would be the first to recommend to the board of trustee to "bring back track and field"
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Postby d_pony » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:35 pm

Dooby - it is being considered
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Postby DiamondM75 » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:19 pm

d_pony,

I know that we would have to raise a lot of additional funds for Mens Track and Field, not to mention baseball. To get to the figure of 1,600,000 that you mention, we need to have an endowed athletic fund of about $25 million. Maybe this is something the athletic department and SMU should start looking into. Instead of just raising money for the Mustang Club, or maybe set some of the Mustang Club money aside every year, in an endowment fund.

We could then restrict the earnings from the fund for athletics. We have a really BIG BIG BIG fund raising campaign for the endowment. Now we would have the money every year for additional womens and mens sports.
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Postby davidsmu94 » Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:35 pm

d_pony wrote:Diamond M75 - in order to bring back men's track and field we would need to add a minimum of 45 women's athletic scholarships (men's track and field counts 45 scholarship) - that means 3 different women's sports that will allow 15 scholarships - the cost per sport is about $400,000 to $600,000 per year or about $1,200,000 (minimum) plus about $4,000,000 to $600,000 for Men's track and field for a total minimum cost of $1,600,000 - not counting trying to find the room on campus for additional fields (which we don't have) - if you would guarantee the $1,600,000 on an annual basis and provide the additional funding to purchase land I know from first hand experience Jim Copeland would be the first to recommend to the board of trustee to "bring back track and field"


Unless I'm mistaken, the only senerio where track would count as 45 scholarships would be if all 15 of your scholarship athletes competed in cross country, indoor and outdoor track. At SMU a large portion of the scholarships went to field even athletes. I've proposed to Copeland that SMU simply field and Outdoor Track and Field team for Men. Now you are back to your 15.
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Postby d_pony » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:49 am

David94- i will check into if you can "op out of indoor track and cross country" but you still have a minimum cost of $800,000 to $1,200,000 per year which we don't have and the space problem i mentioned in my earlier post
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Postby me@smu » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:36 am

Why would we need additional land when bringing back track and field? We have a woman's team that can share space? I know it would be a pain, but they did it before.
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Postby d_pony » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:35 pm

we would have to add an additional women's sport that allows 15 scholarships, e.g. softball, field hockey etc. all of these require a field
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Postby d_pony » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:35 pm

we would have to add an additional women's sport that allows 15 scholarships, e.g. softball, field hockey etc. all of these require a field
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Postby EastStang » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:28 pm

Personally we should look into college stock car racing with women drivers and crews. NASCAR teams can donate older cars for a tax write-off. There are NASCAR speedways near just about every CUSA city that are used about one week per year for actual racing. Imagine Central Florida hosting a race at Daytona. SMU, Rice and Houston at the Texas Motor Speedway. UTEP somewhere in Mexico. ECU at Charlotte. Marshall at the Poconos. UAB at Talladega. Have five races and the point champion wins. On the other hand I can't see Kappas getting their grit on their nails.
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Postby davidsmu94 » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:40 pm

Two Words, Women's Fencing. Wouldn't need additional space, could use a room in Moody's new rec center.

By the way, there are several schools that don't compete in indoor track

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Postby d_pony » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:20 pm

fencing i have been told gives only 5 scholarships - the policy of intramurals is not to allow the athletic program to use their facilities - the exception was when we were building Ford and the practice facilities were torn up, e.g, new swimming pool etc will only be available for student use
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Postby d_pony » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:39 pm

in my earlier response to you i left out the most importand factor - the money - the $400,000 minimum per sport - more for track
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Postby DiamondM75 » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:29 pm

In my original post on this thread, I said we need to add Women's Rugby. It is played on a soccer field - we have those, and I believe it has the 15 scholarships.

Plus, I want to see Women's Rugby.

This could turn into a revenue sport.
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