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[SMU2007]

some of the hottest posts on the Frog Forum are why the hell does TCU even play SMU. The only redeeming value is that TCU fans still love to kick the [deleted] out of SMU because most of their fans actually turned out for an old rival. Many TCU had predicted only about 30,000 fans actually in their seats. When are SMU fan going to give a [deleted] Our fan base is very June Jones-like. TCU has brought 4-5 times more than SMU brought to Ft Worth and SMU couldn't even sell 1,200 of its visitors allotment. But we aren't supposed to bring these inconvenient facts up

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First of all, you are preaching to the choir. The 50-100 people on here are probably the best fans the football program has.

Second of all, as someone else pointed out, why the hell would anyone waste their time following this team? What exactly have they done to make people want to be fans?? Good grief. Show me another team that has been completely horrible for over 25 years and plays in a conference no one cares about that still has any fans. There's no example, because that program doesn't exist.

[CalallenStang]

So maybe more minor recruiting miracles
for JJ in the future to hope for. See Margus Hunt

June's minor recruiting miracles haven't gotten us much so far


0 conference titles
0 weeks ranked
0 double-digit win seasons
32-37 record
6-25 record versus winning teams
8-24 record on the road
1-12 record versus TCU, Baylor, A&M, Tech
2-10 record versus BCS teams

PlanoStang thinks that's the best we can do. PlanoStang thinks SMU is not capable of anything beyond mediocre. PlanoStang doesn't think we should put effort in to be great, as we never will be anything more than what we have been.

[SMU_Alumni11]

Do we have sucky fans cause of how talented and fun our football team is to watch or is it that our team sucks because the fans are just so "terrible"....

[PK]

Not sure how to tell you this PlanoStang, but it takes more than one or two really great players to make a team great. The long and short of it is recruiting and that has been true for 24 years. For the last 5 years there has really been no excuse for not recruiting better. Right now I wish we had enough really good players to be able to play four quarters of football. You don't have to have 22 4 & 5 star players, but a full house of high 3s couldn't hurt. We play pretty good football for 2-1/2 to 3 quarters and then the wheels tend to come off. Not enough good players to back up the starters or at least that would seem to be the case. Or maybe it really is coaching...so hard to tell.

[GiddyUp]

Do we have sucky fans cause of how talented and fun our football team is to watch or is it that our team sucks because the fans are just so "terrible"....

little bit of both.

Is Stallion saying that TCU gave us 3000 tickets? I didnt see any empty sections other than student so they must have bought them.

Anyway, for the casual fan to get kicked in the nuts against TCU, A&M, Baylor, Tech and every other decent team we play, they just give up and certainly don't blame them. We had a decent contigent at Baylor last year and A&M the year before. They are tired of getting their hopes up only to getting humiliated and embarrassed every single time...

[Charleston Pony]

the sad reality is that SMU didn't travel well even when we had a SWC Championship team and were ranked as one of the top 10 programs in the country. I remember sitting with "maybe" a couple thousand SMU fans at road games in Austin and College Station as we were beating Texa$ and A$M at their places. Our lack of support is why we are where we are today and I know it's painful for those of us on this board who have supported this program through the good times and bad. Those who think winning will change everything need only to talk to guys who played here in the 80's. It's an in-bred culture that I'm not sure how we change. It's part of why there has been no urgency in the post death penalty era to "revive" this football program.

I'm just not sure SMU deserves to compete at the highest level in football. I seriously hope we can become a legitimate basketball program and that we can at least find 6-7,000 people who care enough to support our hoops program

[SMU_Alumni11]

the sad reality is that SMU didn't travel well even when we had a SWC Championship team and were ranked as one of the top 10 programs in the country. I remember sitting with "maybe" a couple thousand SMU fans at road games in Austin and College Station as we were beating Texa$ and A$M at their places. Our lack of support is why we are where we are today and I know it's painful for those of us on this board who have supported this program through the good times and bad. Those who think winning will change everything need only to talk to guys who played here in the 80's. It's an in-bred culture that I'm not sure how we change. It's part of why there has been no urgency in the post death penalty era to "revive" this football program.

I'm just not sure SMU deserves to compete at the highest level in football. I seriously hope we can become a legitimate basketball program and that we can at least find 6-7,000 people who care enough to support our hoops program

Ok for those fans they should be ashamed however i think things are different or could be different. Seeing the fans that showed up at the BVA bowl and seeing our army game bowl, i know we have fans. I know we can fill stadiums but we have to stop letting the fans (now) down by these butt kickings. Like Giddyup said, its watching and feeling your nuts getting kicked every time we play a semi- to actually fun team... so maybe in the past, fans suck, but now the team is to blame, and beating a tcu with a fake 4-1 record means nothing to the 15k we need to fill our stadium.

[GiddyUp]

I'm helping put 96 students and teachers in the stands this Sat. Im trying to build interest. Ill try to run a few ideas by on increasing crowds next few days for what it's worth. I don't think SMU administration cares much for what is written here.

good work

[Stallion]

It appears we were given allotment of 3,000
During the game I did a rough calculation of our 2 main sections based on rows and seats per row which I believe is approximately 900 per section-1800 total. 10 days ago a "sold out" SMU/TCU game suddenly had 1200 tickets availiable all in the usual secondary visitors section in the upper deck east side stands. The TCU ticket office confirmed to the Ft Worth ST that SMU returned those tickets. The numbers seem to add up to a 3,000 alottment

[lwjr]

I guess I can be considered a sun shiner when it comes to fan support, but in defense of SMU fans, do you realize that if you are/were a student at SMU, you would have to be 50+ years old to have seen your school play a Meaningful Game?

Meaningful Game = you attend a FB or BB game where SMU is a ranked team, they are playing a ranked opponent, and you as a fan have no idea what the outcome of the game is beforehand.

I saw SMU play Phi Slama Jama at Moody, Coog High had 3 future NBA 1st round draft picks including 2 of basketball's all-time greatest and the game was undecided until Clyde the Glide took off the the free-throw line late with a monster dunk to seal their victory. That UH team played for the NC. I drove to Austin to see an undefeated SMU team led by Lance & the Pony Express wallop a Top 10 UT team. The following season when we faced UT at Texas Stadium, both teams were undefeated.

So before we totally write-off SMU fans, let's give them a chance to support a real team. I think we will finally get that chance with LB.

Thanks for putting it that way, SoCal_Pony. I already feel old enough.

[CalallenStang]

Larry Brown and staff are trying to win. We don't see that from anti-social media June Jones

[lwjr]

Larry Brown and staff are trying to win. We don't see that from anti-social media June Jones

I only wish I had Larry Brown's energy. His efforts hopefully will be rewarded by people filling up Moody. This is currently SMU's best chance for national exposure. Will SMU market the team to Dallas? Should they?

[PurplFrawg]

First of all, you are preaching to the choir. The 50-100 people on here are probably the best fans the football program has.

Second of all, as someone else pointed out, why the hell would anyone waste their time following this team? What exactly have they done to make people want to be fans?? Good grief. Show me another team that has been completely horrible for over 25 years and plays in a conference no one cares about that still has any fans. There's no example, because that program doesn't exist.

You pretty well described TCU ca 1999. But a bunch of us made it out to El Paso to watch USC get curb stomped.

Personally, I made it a point to thank the SMU fans I saw this Saturday for coming...maybe they'll be more likely to come back in 2015.

[mavsrage311]

First of all, you are preaching to the choir. The 50-100 people on here are probably the best fans the football program has.

Second of all, as someone else pointed out, why the hell would anyone waste their time following this team? What exactly have they done to make people want to be fans?? Good grief. Show me another team that has been completely horrible for over 25 years and plays in a conference no one cares about that still has any fans. There's no example, because that program doesn't exist.

You pretty well described TCU ca 1999. But a bunch of us made it out to El Paso to watch USC get curb stomped.

Personally, I made it a point to thank the SMU fans I saw this Saturday for coming...maybe they'll be more likely to come back in 2015.

Thats a nice thing to do. I have never had a bad experience with TCU fans at Amon Carter.

And to point out Margus Hunt as a sleeper recruit we got...umm...he kind of fell in our laps. We didn't even have to recruit him. I guess that speaks for itself.