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If JJ stays, what will happen to season tickets' sales?

a) down more than 50%
10
14%
b) down more than 25%
26
38%
c) down 0 to 24%
26
38%
d) sales will increase
7
10%
 
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby 03Mustang » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:29 pm

BigT3x wrote:Yeah, it's MY attitude that's keeping the stadium empty...


It's a big part of it. Stretch your attitude (or worse) across the student body and all graduates going back 20+ years and this is what you get.

"I've got better things to do"...bs, you're just tired of not seeing what you want to see and you're too self-centered to think it's worth your oh so valuable time that would otherwise be spent watching a different game. Our "fans" faux commitment to the program is a HUGE part of our problem, whether you want to admit it or not, and the next coach will get just as worn out by it as JJ.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:33 pm

03Mustang wrote:
BigT3x wrote:Yeah, it's MY attitude that's keeping the stadium empty...


It's a big part of it. Stretch your attitude (or worse) across the student body and all graduates going back 20+ years and this is what you get.

"I've got better things to do"...bs, you're just tired of not seeing what you want to see and you're too self-centered to think it's worth your oh so valuable time that would otherwise be spent watching a different game. Our "fans" faux commitment to the program is a HUGE part of our problem, whether you want to admit it or not, and the next coach will get just as worn out by it as JJ.

Yep.

It astounds me how someone who graduated in 2010 could be put off by the team's relative "lack of success." We were one of the worst 1-A programs in the country when I was at SMU.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby redpony » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:41 pm

03Mustang- IMO most fans want to see an exciting product on the field, a coach that is engaged, a team that is well prepared and competitive, an opposing team that has a reputation in Texas etc. Sports are entertainment and as such must provide value for the dollar spent. If they aren't entertaining and interesting then people will not attend those games be that hard core fans or casual fans.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby Stallion » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:48 pm

Hard core fans go to every game. Its not entertainment its school loyalty. No matter who the Coach or what their record is. Certainly playing final game for bowl eligibility is no reason to not support the program
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:50 pm

Stallion wrote:Hard core fans go to every game. Its not entertainment its school loyalty. No matter who the Coach or what their record is. Certainly playing final game for bowl eligibility is no reason to not support the program

Agree with this. Would add that playing final game against Top-15 team for bowl eligibility, and last game for one of the most prolific QBs in school history
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby Statler » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:51 pm

Stallion wrote:Hard core fans go to every game. Its not entertainment its school loyalty. No matter who the Coach or what their record is. Certainly playing final game for bowl eligibility is no reason to not support the program


Thus the attendance issues SMU has.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby BigT3x » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:52 pm

redpony wrote:03Mustang- IMO most fans want to see an exciting product on the field, a coach that is engaged, a team that is well prepared and competitive, an opposing team that has a reputation in Texas etc. Sports are entertainment and as such must provide value for the dollar spent. If they aren't entertaining and interesting then people will not attend those games be that hard core fans or casual fans.

Yep. I'm sick of spending money to be bored out of my mind. I don't like watching pillow fights with schools no one has ever heard of. I'm sure most on here have plenty of money to burn and nothing better to do on the weekend, but I'm 25 years old.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:53 pm

BigT3x wrote:
redpony wrote:03Mustang- IMO most fans want to see an exciting product on the field, a coach that is engaged, a team that is well prepared and competitive, an opposing team that has a reputation in Texas etc. Sports are entertainment and as such must provide value for the dollar spent. If they aren't entertaining and interesting then people will not attend those games be that hard core fans or casual fans.

Yep. I'm sick of spending money to be bored out of my mind. I don't like watching pillow fights with schools no one has ever heard of. I'm sure most on here have plenty of money to burn and nothing better to do on the weekend, but I'm 25 years old.

So you'll just be another one of the clowns who socializes on the Boulevard and then leaves? Nice to have you here.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby blackoutpony » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:16 pm

smusic 00 wrote:I am considering dropping my current seats for cheapies. I'll just sit in the row ahead of me cause no one has sat there once in four years and the ushers don't care where you sit.


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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby SMUer » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:18 pm

"Yeah! Get lost! Trim the fat! I only wanna sit next to REAL fans!"

You guys are such [gary patterson]-tards sometimes...

We [SMU] told them our goal was to be Top 25. We told them we would be competing against TCU...what other type of reaction do you expect from anyone who has graduated post-2008? Our efforts to follow through with that goal have been pathetic. I don't see waving goodbye another lost generation of SMU fans as something to be proud of at all.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby redpony » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:27 pm

Stallion wrote:Hard core fans go to every game. Its not entertainment its school loyalty.


And loyalty is a two-way street.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby blackoutpony » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:27 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:
BigT3x wrote:
redpony wrote:03Mustang- IMO most fans want to see an exciting product on the field, a coach that is engaged, a team that is well prepared and competitive, an opposing team that has a reputation in Texas etc. Sports are entertainment and as such must provide value for the dollar spent. If they aren't entertaining and interesting then people will not attend those games be that hard core fans or casual fans.

Yep. I'm sick of spending money to be bored out of my mind. I don't like watching pillow fights with schools no one has ever heard of. I'm sure most on here have plenty of money to burn and nothing better to do on the weekend, but I'm 25 years old.

So you'll just be another one of the clowns who socializes on the Boulevard and then leaves? Nice to have you here.


Times are a changin ECM. Adapt or die. Reality is, attendance is down across all of college football and people want to be entertained. SMU vs directional bumfuk U isn't really exciting to a lot of people care about in my generation. I care about SMU, but watching us is just so brutal more often than not.

And [deleted] at anyone on this board about their loyalty makes about as much sense as putting your balls in a blender because you don't want to have kids. It would argue its "don't let the door hit you on the way out" fans like you that are more of a turn off. You say big tex is entitled for not showing undying support for a crappy football team? Aren't you acting entitled for expecting him to do so?

Reality is, until we win, and win against teams that people have heard of, the stadium will continue to get more and more empty and people are just tired of being invested in something that the head coach doesn't even care about. It's depressing to people.
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:41 pm

blackoutpony wrote:Times are a changin ECM. Adapt or die. Reality is, attendance is down across all of college football and people want to be entertained. SMU vs directional bumfuk U isn't really exciting to a lot of people care about in my generation. I care about SMU, but watching us is just so brutal more often than not.

And [deleted] at anyone on this board about their loyalty makes about as much sense as putting your balls in a blender because you don't want to have kids. It would argue its "don't let the door hit you on the way out" fans like you that are more of a turn off. You say big tex is entitled for not showing undying support for a crappy football team? Aren't you acting entitled for expecting him to do so?

Reality is, until we win, and win against teams that people have heard of, the stadium will continue to get more and more empty and people are just tired of being invested in something that the head coach doesn't even care about. It's depressing to people.

My point- it's naive to say you're giving up on SMU football or not renewing season tickets because we might miss a bowl game for the first time since 2008. Most of us here lived through the [deleted] era of SMU football and we're still here, so yeah, the c/o 2010 kids can kiss my [deleted] if they're "giving up" on the program, not renewing season tickets, whatever.

I'm aware that JJ has checked out and we need a new coach. With that said, we have A&M and TCU coming to Ford in addition to our conference slate- hell, if these 24 year olds were smart they'd keep their season tickets and sell them to Sand Aggies for one game and pay for the whole season. I'm not advocating selling tickets to opposing fans, but it appears the newbies have checked out anyways
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Re: Season Tickets' Poll

Postby blackoutpony » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:50 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:
blackoutpony wrote:Times are a changin ECM. Adapt or die. Reality is, attendance is down across all of college football and people want to be entertained. SMU vs directional bumfuk U isn't really exciting to a lot of people care about in my generation. I care about SMU, but watching us is just so brutal more often than not.

And [deleted] at anyone on this board about their loyalty makes about as much sense as putting your balls in a blender because you don't want to have kids. It would argue its "don't let the door hit you on the way out" fans like you that are more of a turn off. You say big tex is entitled for not showing undying support for a crappy football team? Aren't you acting entitled for expecting him to do so?

Reality is, until we win, and win against teams that people have heard of, the stadium will continue to get more and more empty and people are just tired of being invested in something that the head coach doesn't even care about. It's depressing to people.

My point- it's naive to say you're giving up on SMU football or not renewing season tickets because we might miss a bowl game for the first time since 2008. Most of us here lived through the [deleted] era of SMU football and we're still here, so yeah, the c/o 2010 kids can kiss my [deleted] if they're "giving up" on the program, not renewing season tickets, whatever.

I'm aware that JJ has checked out and we need a new coach. With that said, we have A&M and TCU coming to Ford in addition to our conference slate- hell, if these 24 year olds were smart they'd keep their season tickets and sell them to Sand Aggies for one game and pay for the whole season. I'm not advocating selling tickets to opposing fans, but it appears the newbies have checked out anyways


Why should it matter what you have or haven't done in the past? When did fandom become a [deleted] measuring contest?

And I can promise you he's not supposedly jumping ship because we're not going bowling, it's because we look completely and utterly helpless on the football field and the "leaders" of our school and team couldn't give any less of a [deleted].

You blame a guy for wanting change and wanting to have his team be better? So, instead of clamoring for change from the status of mediocrity, by doing the only real tangible thing he can, what would you suggest? Continue to support our esteemed leadership for continue to do the same things, but somehow expect different results? That's insanity....
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