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Postby East Coast Mustang » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:34 pm

ponyinNC wrote:I worry much more about attendance - no P5 invite will be forthcoming if we average less fans than we already do.

SMU and/or CofC need to be thinking about doing everything possible to increase attendance. With JJ coming back, and a very tough OOC again, I find that a hard sell to make.

If we average 19k (announced) now, and with tons of diehard fans saying they'll walk if JJ is extended, I just don't see this as a good move.

It's all conjecture anyway, but my best educated guess.

We will probably draw around 35K for A&M and TCU games which will help the average, but yeah outside of those two games, assuming we lose to Baylor, A&M, and TCU, Ford will be a morgue.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby ponyinNC » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:38 pm

We may get Tulsa or Tulane at home, or even ECU - I don't expect many more fans than we got for Rutgers or Uconn however.

UH at home may give us a boost though.
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Postby Bergermeister » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:48 pm

NastyStang wrote:This is such garbage...say goodbye to another generation of SMU football fans.

Not a panic thread.... move on.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby feelthehorsepower » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:51 pm

2014 is the year we have to make an impression. If Mason manages to get our defense up to 2011-2012 levels, as well as get Burcham up to speed, and Prescott playing like Zach...we might have a chance at making things happen.

TCU taught us that Baylor is beatable. Run the clock and keep em off the field. (will be tough with our offensive style)
Texas A&M will be tough but winnable (assuming Manziel leaves for the draft this year)
TCU is winnable (new QB, offense sucks and looks like it won't get better)

If we lose those 3 games...we can still win the other 9.

It will be just like CUSA.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby sbsmith » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:55 pm

feelthehorsepower wrote:2014 is the year we have to make an impression. If Mason manages to get our defense up to 2011-2012 levels, as well as get Burcham up to speed, and Prescott playing like Zach...we might have a chance at making things happen.

TCU taught us that Baylor is beatable. Run the clock and keep em off the field. (will be tough with our offensive style)
Texas A&M will be tough but winnable (assuming Manziel leaves for the draft this year)
TCU is winnable (new QB, offense sucks and looks like it won't get better)

If we lose those 3 games...we can still win the other 9.

It will be just like CUSA.


Where's the talent to win 9 games going to come from? Bear in mind that we never won 9 games back in C-USA.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby blackoutpony » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:01 pm

sbsmith wrote:
feelthehorsepower wrote:2014 is the year we have to make an impression. If Mason manages to get our defense up to 2011-2012 levels, as well as get Burcham up to speed, and Prescott playing like Zach...we might have a chance at making things happen.

TCU taught us that Baylor is beatable. Run the clock and keep em off the field. (will be tough with our offensive style)
Texas A&M will be tough but winnable (assuming Manziel leaves for the draft this year)
TCU is winnable (new QB, offense sucks and looks like it won't get better)

If we lose those 3 games...we can still win the other 9.

It will be just like CUSA.


Where's the talent to win 9 games going to come from? Bear in mind that we never won 9 games back in C-USA.


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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby skurtn » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:10 pm

Just curious. Where are the facts?
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Postby RGV Pony » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:11 pm

skurtn wrote:Just curious. Where are the facts?


in part, $12MM+ and 6 years in, staring at 5-7
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby skurtn » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:14 pm

RGV Pony wrote:
skurtn wrote:Just curious. Where are the facts?


in part, $12MM+ and 6 years in, staring at 5-7


That's a fact of what has been, but isn't, necessarily, what will be. Are we likely to win 9 games next season? Maybe not. Is it a fact? No.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby redpony » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:26 pm

Fact: if jj is given an extension there will be a lot less people in the stands next year.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby mrydel » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:28 pm

Since no extension has been given yet. (It should have already been done for recruiting purposes if it was to be done) I am wondering if Jones is under the same edict as was Bennett. Bowl game warrants extension. No bowl, off you go. Like I mentioned, not having done an extension by now is unusual for someone who is staying.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby skurtn » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:29 pm

Fair enough myrdel.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby ponyinNC » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:37 pm

mrydel wrote:Since no extension has been given yet. (It should have already been done for recruiting purposes if it was to be done) I am wondering if Jones is under the same edict as was Bennett. Bowl game warrants extension. No bowl, off you go. Like I mentioned, not having done an extension by now is unusual for someone who is staying.


That would be clean and easy and I hope it is the case.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby JasonB » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:52 pm

I think Mydel is on the right track. I am sure the staff wanted extensions prior to the season and didn't get them then. Why would we do it now, after recruiting has already been impacted?
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby skurtn » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:58 pm

That might explain losing the 4-star QB recruit; Tyler Harris
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