Saw June again tonight

[Grant Carter]

I have to agree with Leopold. As one who has asked June to resign and Hart & Turner to fire him, I cannot be considered a JJ apologist. But, criticism of him for things that do not matter to winning is not only ridiculous but detracts from criticism for things that do matter. These types of complaints only serve to give the apologists ammunition that the criticism is based on petty, irrelevant, stuff.

I agree. He doesn't win enough, that is the bottom line.

[MustangStealth]

That's the hardest June has worked recruiting anyone.

[Treadway21]

LB must have sent June some video tape of his NAtional championship and June decided to offer - tape don't lie.

[East Coast Mustang]

June could wear pink on the sidelines every game if he made an effort to recruit, embrace the rest of SMU's traditions, and promote SMU in the community just like every other FBS coach in America. Please keep in mind that no one defended JJ on here more than me after the ASU disaster, but those of you still sticking up for him today in any sense whatsoever have your heads located somewhere in your rectum. The guy is stealing money from SMU and depositing it into his retirement account.

[78pony]

Concur 100% East!

[Grant Carter]

June could wear pink on the sidelines every game if he made an effort to recruit, embrace the rest of SMU's traditions, and promote SMU in the community just like every other FBS coach in America. Please keep in mind that no one defended JJ on here more than me after the ASU disaster, but those of you still sticking up for him today in any sense whatsoever have your heads located somewhere in your rectum. The guy is stealing money from SMU and depositing it into his retirement account.

You did not mention win. Surely that was an oversight or are you more focused on the things you listed than winning to the extent you would give him a pass on not winning if he recruited, embraced tradition and promoted SMU?

[East Coast Mustang]

June could wear pink on the sidelines every game if he made an effort to recruit, embrace the rest of SMU's traditions, and promote SMU in the community just like every other FBS coach in America. Please keep in mind that no one defended JJ on here more than me after the ASU disaster, but those of you still sticking up for him today in any sense whatsoever have your heads located somewhere in your rectum. The guy is stealing money from SMU and depositing it into his retirement account.

You did not mention win. Surely that was an oversight or are you more focused on the things you listed than winning to the extent you would give him a pass on not winning if he recruited, embraced tradition and promoted SMU?

You can be a smart aleck all you want, but June can't control whether we win or lose a game in a literal sense. He can control the effort he and the rest of the staff puts into recruiting. My argument is that if he recruited at the level this program is capable then we would see more Ws as a result.

[Big12Mustang]

June could wear pink on the sidelines every game if he made an effort to recruit, embrace the rest of SMU's traditions, and promote SMU in the community just like every other FBS coach in America. Please keep in mind that no one defended JJ on here more than me after the ASU disaster, but those of you still sticking up for him today in any sense whatsoever have your heads located somewhere in your rectum. The guy is stealing money from SMU and depositing it into his retirement account.

You did not mention win. Surely that was an oversight or are you more focused on the things you listed than winning to the extent you would give him a pass on not winning if he recruited, embraced tradition and promoted SMU?

You can be a smart aleck all you want, but June can't control whether we win or lose a game in a literal sense. He can control the effort he and the rest of the staff puts into recruiting. My argument is that if he recruited at the level this program is capable then we would see more Ws as a result.

June - "At the level we are...not true. I will probably pencil this next season at 3-9, but some of my 2 star kids will end up in the NFL...look at the Broncos"

[Grant Carter]

June could wear pink on the sidelines every game if he made an effort to recruit, embrace the rest of SMU's traditions, and promote SMU in the community just like every other FBS coach in America. Please keep in mind that no one defended JJ on here more than me after the ASU disaster, but those of you still sticking up for him today in any sense whatsoever have your heads located somewhere in your rectum. The guy is stealing money from SMU and depositing it into his retirement account.

You did not mention win. Surely that was an oversight or are you more focused on the things you listed than winning to the extent you would give him a pass on not winning if he recruited, embraced tradition and promoted SMU?

You can be a smart aleck all you want, but June can't control whether we win or lose a game in a literal sense. He can control the effort he and the rest of the staff puts into recruiting. My argument is that if he recruited at the level this program is capable then we would see more Ws as a result.

I am not being a smart aleck. He could do all of the things you mentioned and go 6-6 and I would not want him back. He could do none of them and go undefeated and I would want him back. I understand that recruiting/etc contribute to wins but it is just crazy to focus on that stuff and not hold him accountable for wins or the lack there of.

[birddogger]

It comes down to results. And good results require effort. I don't care if JJ is dressed like elf boy or lobster boy if he delivers.

Maybe a little of LB will rub off on him this year and he'll raise his recruiting sights, but it sure seems like he's set in his ways. He likes to coach, not recruit, but doesn't seem to get that it's just as easy to coach up a 3-4 star as it is a 2 star.

[CA Mustang]

One question Leopold. Could a college educated athlete not be able to spot a Blue shirt on the sideline also? We obviously are not going to wear that color so it should stand out. He can wear black if he wants but those that use the "so the players can see him" excuse are being ridiculous. He just likes to wear black.

I think the assistants wear blue shirts while the support staff wears white (or vice versa).

[HorsePower]

I saw Steve Collins there. He was wearing a red shirt.

[mrydel]

One question Leopold. Could a college educated athlete not be able to spot a Blue shirt on the sideline also? We obviously are not going to wear that color so it should stand out. He can wear black if he wants but those that use the "so the players can see him" excuse are being ridiculous. He just likes to wear black.

I think the assistants wear blue shirts while the support staff wears white (or vice versa).

Except Odum. He wears green.

[GRGB]

He was sitting up in one of the corner suites. It must be perplexing to him, seeing students and alums getting excited about a coach that recruits top talent, makes efforts to promote SMU in the community, and embraces the school's traditions.

Yeah, it's the same 7,000 loyal fans. Smaller venue looks more full.

[SMU 86]

He was sitting up in one of the corner suites. It must be perplexing to him, seeing students and alums getting excited about a coach that recruits top talent, makes efforts to promote SMU in the community, and embraces the school's traditions.

Yeah, it's the same 7,000 loyal fans. Smaller venue looks more full.

Not really as it could be a different crowd of 7,000. And these 7,000 have not been filling up Moody in years. Sellout 5 games in a row for the first time in over 2 decades. Please give credit where credit is due. The basketball coaches are doing a good job and they are connecting with the fans better than anyone on campus imo.