June backing out

[Big12Mustang]

Walking before we run in year 7? No depth at WR and waiting on freshman to come in in year 7? Big12Mustang must be FTHP. How many years do you give them to turn a program around 10? Your apples to oranges comment was ignorant because we are not talking about year 2 of a football program. Most football coaches are only given 3 or 4 years to turn a football team around. We are in 7.

June wasn't expected to take us bowling until about year 3 or 4. Happened in year 2 which is why we extended him back then. Our program did turn around when JJ came in...or are you pretending that 1989-2007 never happened?

[Big12Mustang]

a rebuilding year from a .500 regullar season? June ain't building jack. June is stair-stepping down for 3 years and headed for a 4th and final year before he is run out of town

Well I guess it is a crime to be positive on this board...

[Stallion]

You're pretending not to be FTP-formerly known as the most ignorant SMU fan in history

[Rebel10]

Walking before we run in year 7? No depth at WR and waiting on freshman to come in in year 7? Big12Mustang must be FTHP. How many years do you give them to turn a program around 10? Your apples to oranges comment was ignorant because we are not talking about year 2 of a football program. Most football coaches are only given 3 or 4 years to turn a football team around. We are in 7.

June wasn't expected to take us bowling until about year 3 or 4. Happened in year 2 which is why we extended him back then. Our program did turn around when JJ came in...or are you pretending that 1989-2007 never happened?

You are flip flopping just like FTHP. We all know that JasonB is a hard core JJ supporter but you go one way sometimes and another way other times. Now you say he did turn the program around but then you say that you want a cupcake schedule because he has hasn't turned the program around in 7 years with less restrictions than any other coach since the DP.

[sbsmith]

a rebuilding year from a .500 regullar season? June ain't building jack. June is stair-stepping down for 3 years and headed for a 4th and final year before he is run out of town

Well I guess it is a crime to be positive on this board...

What reasons do you have to be positive about this year's team?

[Lebanese4Life]

seriously... nothing at all to look forward to about the upcoming football season. enjoy every minunte of bball season boys, cause football season will be a long one...

[Stallion]

as June said-they've developed a system of recruiting that has worked well for them around here -so I hope he enjoys his last trip to Waco so he can witness the results of his system of recruiting

[mustangxc]

It is no surprise that we will get drilled. I would love to be competitive with Baylor but we won't be. I am not blind to see that vchanges need to be made for us to really be competitive. However, in the mean time, I would rather win 6 or 7 games and go bowling than to have another losing season. I've lived through too many of those already.

[ponyinNC]

this season with Jones at the helm should just be called "The Walking Dead".

seriously, rip the band aid off and just view this season for what it really is -- a bridge to our next head coach (one who actually places importance in recruiting).

There, my one football post for the month...back to basketball!!

[mustangxc]

The cupboard is so bare that I would like to go bowling while it is still possible as we will have some pretty lean years unless we load up on jucos and transfers.

[Rebel10]

It is no surprise that we will get drilled. I would love to be competitive with Baylor but we won't be. I am not blind to see that vchanges need to be made for us to really be competitive. However, in the mean time, I would rather win 6 or 7 games and go bowling than to have another losing season. I've lived through too many of those already.

I don't think changes will be made if we win 6 or 7 games. We could be stuck in mediocrity.

[JasonB]

Like I said, I think we should be further along at this point. Whether or not we keep JJ moving forward doesn't matter. TCU had the same strategy - easy non-conference, get to 10 wins, build yourself up to being a relevant team, and then you make things more difficult.

Get great at walking, then start running. People see wins as much as they see quality.

In basketball, we only have 6 losses. Would the hype be this big if we had a punishing non-conference and had double digit losses? No it wouldn't. Even if we had defeated a couple of top 25 teams. Wins matter first and foremost. Then quality of schedule comes second.

[Rebel10]

Get great at walking, then start running. People see wins as much as they see quality.

The basketball team was getting pounded in the RPI and media for not having a strong OOC. So much that we had to win the UConn game just to ensure we were going to the NCAA tournament. And some are saying that is still not good enough to get us off the bubble. That is why Coach Brown want to get better opponents for the OOC because even if you lose you still get more credibility. How many years should it take to start walking, Is 7 not good enough?

[Stallion]

Give up the ridiculous TCU analogies-TCU had already finished the season ranked in Top 25 three times at this stage of the program development and had been ranked in 4 years. Following that stage they ran off a string of more Top 25 finishes all while playing in comparable non-BCS conferences. The missing ingredient is recruiting. It ain't going to happen under June Jones got it. He's going to be shown the door after his 4th straight stair-step down season. June Jones will never make the Top 25 ever.

[sbsmith]

In basketball, we only have 6 losses. Would the hype be this big if we had a punishing non-conference and had double digit losses? No it wouldn't. Even if we had defeated a couple of top 25 teams. Wins matter first and foremost. Then quality of schedule comes second.

The hype would have started earlier and would be much bigger right now if we had a punishing non-conf schedule and won some of those games.