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Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:20 pm
by Mitch McConnell
I'm not going to apologize for any of my comments regarding the Jones administration. I'm no fan of his on many counts, but I do acknowledge that he has given us a little more street cred.

But I will say that it really doesn't matter what we think or what anyone else thinks. What matters is what the 85 in that locker room think about each other, the coaches and their attitude.

I do believe that they play for June. And I do believe he connects with kids.

I think we can leave it like this:

All of us want SMU to be successful in the worst way. We have emotionally invested our time and our dollars. We may argue on what is the right path to get there.

I wouldn't have shown up yesterday at Ford if it didn't matter to me. It did.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:21 pm
by StangCP
Mitch McConnell wrote:I'm not going to apologize for any of my comments regarding the Jones administration. I'm no fan of his on many counts, but I do acknowledge that he has given us a little more street cred.

But I will say that it really doesn't matter what we think or what anyone else thinks. What matters is what the 85 in that locker room think about each other, the coaches and their attitude.

I do believe that they play for June. And I do believe he connects with kids.

I think we can leave it like this:

All of us want SMU to be successful in the worst way. We have emotionally invested our time and our dollars. We may argue on what is the right path to get there.

I wouldn't have shown up yesterday at Ford if it didn't matter to me. It did.


Surprising, but +1.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:23 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
Mitch McConnell wrote:I'm not going to apologize for any of my comments regarding the Jones administration. I'm no fan of his on many counts, but I do acknowledge that he has given us a little more street cred.

But I will say that it really doesn't matter what we think or what anyone else thinks. What matters is what the 85 in that locker room think about each other, the coaches and their attitude.

I do believe that they play for June. And I do believe he connects with kids.

I think we can leave it like this:

All of us want SMU to be successful in the worst way. We have emotionally invested our time and our dollars. We may argue on what is the right path to get there.

I wouldn't have shown up yesterday at Ford if it didn't matter to me. It did.


+1

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:42 pm
by smustatesmen
[/quote]If I recall correctly, anyone participating in a fall/winter sport use to report back to school for practice no later than the 3rd of January. If you lived on campus you had to find your own place to stay, at your own expense, until the dorms opened back up around Jan. 15. Summer nationals and other major meets were mostly on your own dime. Boo Hoo for these athletes who are put up in hotel rooms for some of preseason practice, before every game, and while practicing for the bowls. Also, what is the amount of stipend the non-campus members receive. It's not chump change at SMU because of the COLA in Dallas per NCAA. So, while there are some draw backs, I won't cry for them if they don't get to leave the city for a bowl. Like it was said before, if they wanted to bowl out of the Big D they should have approached USM, Tulsa, Navy, and UH differently.[/quote]

Agree completely with SMUStatesman. Hardworkers, give-it-their-all people deserve fun bowls. Kids who give up, get what the bowl selection gives them.[/quote]

Right. The bowl selection process will play out as it would without all you b itches whining (they don't care what you say) and the team will play where they are slotted. If you cannot understand why a team - any team - would prefer to go somewhere other than home for a bowl game, pass the pipe.[/quote]
If your going to use a quote of mine at least understand what I said before you lump me in as a whining b itch. My response was to smudub regarding "all their sacrifices". We all know they have no say per the bowl selection, and it was just the Beas' opine.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:05 pm
by smudubs
sbsmith wrote:
RepublicanPNY wrote:What a pouty bunch we have if this is true. That's disgusting. There should be a pride factor that drives them to compete no matter the circumstance.




Yeah, it's disappointing that these guys worry more about who's in the stands than their on-field performance.


Guys, I wish it were that simple, but attendance and game day atmosphere do matter. Look at the number of recruits who have commented on the poor attendance at SMU sporting events. Basketball doesn't even schedule visits to home games. Guys don't want to play in an empty stadium or one half filled with apathetic fans. The players who have shared these comments were not [deleted]; rather they were just stating the facts. Players feed off of crowd energy. If no one is in the stands like yesterday, the game was nothing more than a glorified scrimmage.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:20 pm
by SMU 86
Mitch McConnell wrote:I'm not going to apologize for any of my comments regarding the Jones administration. I'm no fan of his on many counts, but I do acknowledge that he has given us a little more street cred.

But I will say that it really doesn't matter what we think or what anyone else thinks. What matters is what the 85 in that locker room think about each other, the coaches and their attitude.

I do believe that they play for June. And I do believe he connects with kids.

I think we can leave it like this:

All of us want SMU to be successful in the worst way. We have emotionally invested our time and our dollars. We may argue on what is the right path to get there.

I wouldn't have shown up yesterday at Ford if it didn't matter to me. It did.


I know Mitch, you want one of those fake yes man type coaches. LOL. Just kidding (I hope).

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:21 pm
by smudubs
smustatesmen wrote:
smudubs wrote: Over the last three seasons, these guys have given up Christmas and Thanksgiving with their families and some will miss their graduations this year depending on what bowl they attend. To me it's understandable that they would want to go somewhere fun when you look at the sacrifices they are making.

If I recall correctly, anyone participating in a fall/winter sport use to report back to school for practice no later than the 3rd of January. If you lived on campus you had to find your own place to stay, at your own expense, until the dorms opened back up around Jan. 15. Summer nationals and other major meets were mostly on your own dime. Boo Hoo for these athletes who are put up in hotel rooms for some of preseason practice, before every game, and while practicing for the bowls. Also, what is the amount of stipend the non-campus members receive. It's not chump change at SMU because of the COLA in Dallas per NCAA. So, while there are some draw backs, I won't cry for them if they don't get to leave the city for a bowl. Like it was said before, if they wanted to bowl out of the Big D they should have approached USM, Tulsa, Navy, and UH differently.


Everyone keeps bringing up the point that if they wanted to play outside of Dallas they should have beaten USM, A&M, Tulsa, and Houston. Finishing second in this conference does not guarantee a game outside of Dallas as the players learned last year. Your argument implies that cutting your summer short to lift weights and run in the Texas heat is enjoyable. Missing time with family and friends at home during the holidays so you can camp out in the Radisson and keep practicing in the bitter cold is a lot of fun too. You don't have to feel sorry for the players but at least recognize what they do for the university. Athletes make tremendous sacrifices to the schools they attend. In my opinion, win or lose, they earn the right to complain about attendance and state a desire to play somewhere outside of their geographical location.

And trust me, I am more pissed off at this team than most of you. They have more talent than their production showed. And please stop attacking McD. He didn't quit. He's just not very good. And finally, the entire team did not quit. I believe it was a small number of divas who did not give their all. Unfortunately, that happens to all teams.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:30 pm
by mrydel
smudubs wrote:
smustatesmen wrote:
smudubs wrote: Over the last three seasons, these guys have given up Christmas and Thanksgiving with their families and some will miss their graduations this year depending on what bowl they attend. To me it's understandable that they would want to go somewhere fun when you look at the sacrifices they are making.

If I recall correctly, anyone participating in a fall/winter sport use to report back to school for practice no later than the 3rd of January. If you lived on campus you had to find your own place to stay, at your own expense, until the dorms opened back up around Jan. 15. Summer nationals and other major meets were mostly on your own dime. Boo Hoo for these athletes who are put up in hotel rooms for some of preseason practice, before every game, and while practicing for the bowls. Also, what is the amount of stipend the non-campus members receive. It's not chump change at SMU because of the COLA in Dallas per NCAA. So, while there are some draw backs, I won't cry for them if they don't get to leave the city for a bowl. Like it was said before, if they wanted to bowl out of the Big D they should have approached USM, Tulsa, Navy, and UH differently.


Everyone keeps bringing up the point that if they wanted to play outside of Dallas they should have beaten USM, A&M, Tulsa, and Houston. Finishing second in this conference does not guarantee a game outside of Dallas as the players learned last year. Your argument implies that cutting your summer short to lift weights and run in the Texas heat is enjoyable. Missing time with family and friends at home during the holidays so you can camp out in the Radisson and keep practicing in the bitter cold is a lot of fun too. You don't have to feel sorry for the players but at least recognize what they do for the university. Athletes make tremendous sacrifices to the schools they attend. In my opinion, win or lose, they earn the right to complain about attendance and state a desire to play somewhere outside of their geographical location.

And trust me, I am more [deleted] off at this team than most of you. They have more talent than their production showed. And please stop attacking McD. He didn't quit. He's just not very good. And finally, the entire team did not quit. I believe it was a small number of divas who did not give their all. Unfortunately, that happens to all teams.

Dubs:

Too many just do not get it.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:31 pm
by Mitch McConnell
SMU 86 wrote:
Mitch McConnell wrote:I'm not going to apologize for any of my comments regarding the Jones administration. I'm no fan of his on many counts, but I do acknowledge that he has given us a little more street cred.

But I will say that it really doesn't matter what we think or what anyone else thinks. What matters is what the 85 in that locker room think about each other, the coaches and their attitude.

I do believe that they play for June. And I do believe he connects with kids.

I think we can leave it like this:
All of us want SMU to be successful in the worst way. We have emotionally invested our time and our dollars. We may argue on what is the right path to get there.

I wouldn't have shown up yesterday at Ford if it didn't matter to me. It did.


I know Mitch, you want one of those fake yes man type coaches. LOL. Just kidding (I hope).


Actually the coach I'm looking for is summed up in the way my boy Jerry Kill at Minnesota described his philosophy: "A physical, hard-nosed football team that can run the ball and play defense."

Mix in a FB, a TE and a punter, and I'm good.

Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:32 pm
by 2ndandlong
smudubs wrote:
smustatesmen wrote:
smudubs wrote: Over the last three seasons, these guys have given up Christmas and Thanksgiving with their families and some will miss their graduations this year depending on what bowl they attend. To me it's understandable that they would want to go somewhere fun when you look at the sacrifices they are making.

If I recall correctly, anyone participating in a fall/winter sport use to report back to school for practice no later than the 3rd of January. If you lived on campus you had to find your own place to stay, at your own expense, until the dorms opened back up around Jan. 15. Summer nationals and other major meets were mostly on your own dime. Boo Hoo for these athletes who are put up in hotel rooms for some of preseason practice, before every game, and while practicing for the bowls. Also, what is the amount of stipend the non-campus members receive. It's not chump change at SMU because of the COLA in Dallas per NCAA. So, while there are some draw backs, I won't cry for them if they don't get to leave the city for a bowl. Like it was said before, if they wanted to bowl out of the Big D they should have approached USM, Tulsa, Navy, and UH differently.


Everyone keeps bringing up the point that if they wanted to play outside of Dallas they should have beaten USM, A&M, Tulsa, and Houston. Finishing second in this conference does not guarantee a game outside of Dallas as the players learned last year. Your argument implies that cutting your summer short to lift weights and run in the Texas heat is enjoyable. Missing time with family and friends at home during the holidays so you can camp out in the Radisson and keep practicing in the bitter cold is a lot of fun too. You don't have to feel sorry for the players but at least recognize what they do for the university. Athletes make tremendous sacrifices to the schools they attend. In my opinion, win or lose, they earn the right to complain about attendance and state a desire to play somewhere outside of their geographical location.

And trust me, I am more [deleted] off at this team than most of you. They have more talent than their production showed. And please stop attacking McD. He didn't quit. He's just not very good. And finally, the entire team did not quit. I believe it was a small number of divas who did not give their all. Unfortunately, that happens to all teams.

well said

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:49 pm
by Dutch
2ndandlong wrote:I care what they want to do a [deleted] ton more than I care what you want them to do. You're getting your panties in a bunch because some dutchbag media member asked them what they wanted to do, and they answered it.


what is a dutchbag?

Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:51 pm
by 2ndandlong
Dutch wrote:
2ndandlong wrote:I care what they want to do a [deleted] ton more than I care what you want them to do. You're getting your panties in a bunch because some dutchbag media member asked them what they wanted to do, and they answered it.


what is a dutchbag?

I tried typing [deleted] bag into tapatalk the other day and it corrected it to Dutch bag. I liked it.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:10 pm
by smustatesmen
[quote="Dutch"
[/quote]what is a dutchbag?[/quote]

Answer: A cougar trying to pick up Dutch.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:13 pm
by Dutch
nasty. cougar is just another word for old wrinkly slut.

Re: Players want to go to an out of town Bowl

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:22 pm
by gostangs
He answered as any of us would have. Stop being drama queens.

We have some work to do on the field to make this team worth watching for someone outside of the direct SMU community - which i might remind you is the third smallest in 1-a football (behind only Rice and Wake).

All of us can help off the field. Directly confront (in a friendly way) all SMU fans and any college football fans you know who dont go to games and ask them why not - and let them know how fun it is. Ask them to meet you at your tailgate.

If you dont have a tailgate get one.

If you dont have season tickets - get them - its worth it easily

if you have season tickets - get two more

join the Mustang Club

Talk is up in your circle of influence - dont concede the water cooler talk to the big state schools - i dont care how much they roll their eyes -

Try a basketball game also - that team might be getting better faster then football.