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Paul Chryst the OC at Wisconsin is an interesting name. He's a Big 10 name and probably is a mid-level BCS HC some day. But that offense is good year in and year out.

sbsmith wrote:

You are right about NOT being a service academy, you are a university which is 0 for 2 in your last 2 games vs service academies. SMU should have spanked Army but they didn't show up. Maybe I'm nuts but I bet you guys would love the triple option if you won almost every Saturday running it. Navy beat Notre Dame 3 straight years with that offense. Navy for crap sakes. I know Notre Dame isn't what they used to be but seriously 3 straight losses to Navy? Run the ball well, block well, tackle well and don't take a lot of penalties and what usually happens? Kenny gets all his kids from Texas and if he keeps beatin' Army I bet our top brass will make the likes of me salute him when I see him.

We're 0-5 in our last 5 against service academies. Still no reason to go out and copy them by running some dated offense that won't attract any high quality recruits. It would be fine to see some limited option as apart of a multiple attack but not as the whole offense. We're about to be an AQ team and we need to start acting like it.

SMU tried for years to line up and play "traditional" football schemes and could never attract enough talent to win. At least June brought a scheme that was difficult to defend, could rely on less talent and size, and had moderate success with it, first year excepted.

SMU should ABSOLUTELY run some sort of option based offense. June couldn't even bring a half-decent QB to town, forget about it now. Paul Johnson has done a terrific job of beating quality teams and pulling in the same level of recruits at my alma mater, GT. Sure we are still getting boxed around when we face the likes of Georgia, LSU, Iowa in the Orange Bowl. But that would probably be the case anyway, minus trips to the Orange Bowl. Call me when THAT is the biggest concern SMU has.

GT and SMU are essentially the same when you consider the extreme recruiting disadvantage that both have, relative to competition. That may not have been as true for SMU in CUSA, but it will become more obvious as you step up to the Big East.

A TO-offense will help ease the transition, since it can succeed even with being undersized on the line and the skill positions. QB's are easy to find, since many high schools run option and those QB's are often recruited to different positions. It can be an easy sell if you're the only school who offers a kid at QB. A guy who's arm makes him a 2* recruit in the eyes of Texas Tech can easily be a 4* recruit in your system. Those that don't make it at QB are athletes that can be moved to DB or WR or A-back or special teams, instead of being deadweight carrying a clipboard. It's personnel efficient.

The other thing you'll argue is that TO is boring. But both GT and AF are in the top-10 for 20+ yard plays from scrimmage this year (and most every year). Plays in the passing game are BOMBS. Winning football is exciting no matter how you do it.

Finally, SMU has no reason to act like it is above the service academies. That is exactly the level of 2011 SMU football. Don't kid yourself.

Sonny Dykes would be another interesting name, and give us an offensive minded head coach.

peruna11 wrote:Justin Fuente - current TCU OC.

We'd have to thank Gary MF Patterson for the help... again

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TCU loves Fuente...

StingStang wrote:

sbsmith wrote:

You are right about NOT being a service academy, you are a university which is 0 for 2 in your last 2 games vs service academies. SMU should have spanked Army but they didn't show up. Maybe I'm nuts but I bet you guys would love the triple option if you won almost every Saturday running it. Navy beat Notre Dame 3 straight years with that offense. Navy for crap sakes. I know Notre Dame isn't what they used to be but seriously 3 straight losses to Navy? Run the ball well, block well, tackle well and don't take a lot of penalties and what usually happens? Kenny gets all his kids from Texas and if he keeps beatin' Army I bet our top brass will make the likes of me salute him when I see him.

We're 0-5 in our last 5 against service academies. Still no reason to go out and copy them by running some dated offense that won't attract any high quality recruits. It would be fine to see some limited option as apart of a multiple attack but not as the whole offense. We're about to be an AQ team and we need to start acting like it.

SMU tried for years to line up and play "traditional" football schemes and could never attract enough talent to win. At least June brought a scheme that was difficult to defend, could rely on less talent and size, and had moderate success with it, first year excepted.

SMU should ABSOLUTELY run some sort of option based offense. June couldn't even bring a half-decent QB to town, forget about it now. Paul Johnson has done a terrific job of beating quality teams and pulling in the same level of recruits at my alma mater, GT. Sure we are still getting boxed around when we face the likes of Georgia, LSU, Iowa in the Orange Bowl. But that would probably be the case anyway, minus trips to the Orange Bowl. Call me when THAT is the biggest concern SMU has.

GT and SMU are essentially the same when you consider the extreme recruiting disadvantage that both have, relative to competition. That may not have been as true for SMU in CUSA, but it will become more obvious as you step up to the Big East.

A TO-offense will help ease the transition, since it can succeed even with being undersized on the line and the skill positions. QB's are easy to find, since many high schools run option and those QB's are often recruited to different positions. It can be an easy sell if you're the only school who offers a kid at QB. A guy who's arm makes him a 2* recruit in the eyes of Texas Tech can easily be a 4* recruit in your system. Those that don't make it at QB are athletes that can be moved to DB or WR or A-back or special teams, instead of being deadweight carrying a clipboard. It's personnel efficient.

The other thing you'll argue is that TO is boring. But both GT and AF are in the top-10 for 20+ yard plays from scrimmage this year (and most every year). Plays in the passing game are BOMBS. Winning football is exciting no matter how you do it.

Finally, SMU has no reason to act like it is above the service academies. That is exactly the level of 2011 SMU football. Don't kid yourself.

And that's just this year. When's the last time you had a team that could beat Notre Dame 3 straight years? When? SMU needs the option IMO. Hell if Hoke wasn't such a lovable SOB I'd want it at Michigan. I mean he talks the talk but he hasn't walked the walk and won a Big Ten Championship yet though and he'll tell you the same. Brady Hoke will be at Michigan till he dies.

But that 4.3 40 yard kid, you know the one that dreams of playing QB even though he's as fast as Desean Jackson.... You can bring him to SMU if he gets to be the QB. We did and Michigan football will forever be different because of Rich Rod and Denard. I'm happy about that. If Rich would have just embraced Michigan tradition and hired a halfway decent defensive coordinator, he'd still be there.

Worked for Tom Osbourne, I suppose SMU tradition compares with Nebraska if you take out the years between the DP and June Jones? nope, probably not. Lot of good some great but still not Nebraska.

Edit and the Ramblin' Wreck is my second favorite college fight song too. Didn't want to bring them into it but I'm glad you did.

Mitch McConnell wrote:Not sure of the accuracy as Maize can speak to it but the story was that Bo Schembechler had a conversation with Jim Harbaugh when he took San Diego job.

Bo asked him:

Do you have a fullback? Yes

Do you have a tight end? Yes

Do you have a punter? Yes

Then you'll be just fine.

When Jimmy took the job at Stanford. Brady Hoke was the SDSU coach.